@Miriam

yeah on top of that, the collapse of western rome had nothing to do with christianity in the first place

its literally just enlightenment era propaganda to shit on the church

probably popularized more by nietzche's coping

the antichrist is literally just "wah wah jesus bad" for 200 something pages

@everyone Daily Question 🔖

- Is 'get woke and go broke' a thing? Can you include left-wing and woke messaging and still make a good movie/book/game that sells? Why?

what a question

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Maybe if it was done correctly?

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Not make it too obvious

it can be done but it needs to be subtle and not in your face.
Thing is that most current writers work it in and come up with a story second.

honestly ngl i support child molestation legalization

Average democrat^

Isn't that Libertarian party talking point

Heroine for kids

I can't really think of good examples but I think some classic Dr.Who (the 1963~1989 run) episodes dealt with politics.

I’m not playing the last of us 2 because of its views but the gayme can be fun regardless

Sure, I'd say watchmen was contextually woke when it first game out and by all accounts it's an excellent subversion of the superhero trope

I just sat through Mad Max Fury Road.
I love the setting but it was pretty in your face with "MEN BAD WOMYN STRONK" at certain points.

Women were slaves in the originals rigjt

Wamen would most definitely be slaves in that world realistically

Immortan Joe did nothing wrong

fuck I just realized that it can be seen as a criticism of feminism.
Immortan Joe build an empire in the Australian outback, and now women showed up wasting precious resources trying to be nice.

Woke messaging has to be in an easter egg forme

If it’s prevalent; then people won’t like it. People love it when they dig deep to find those “hidden” wokepills

^this

I think both Bioshock and Outer Worlds can be used as examples.
Both are critical of hyper capitalism, Bioshock worked this in subtly, you see the results of it up front while Outer Worlds keeps yelling "BIG COMPANY BAD XDXDXDXD"

Right.

Underlying meanings make shows better

Star Trek (Older Ones; not fucking new ones lmao)

I think it's also that current leftist media explores themes that are already done to death.
Racism, homophobia, xenophobia aren't really that interesting anymore.

Another problem is that they're shit, bioshock would work adequately without being a critique of capitalism. A lot of modern "woke" works are just political rants on a screen.

^this

I think another issue is tokenism.
How many leftist games did you play where there wasn't some sodomite worked in as one of the main cast for no good reason?

Exactly.

I like medeival period settings, I wanna watch lotr or some shit about an English king in the 1500s, why is there a black person here? There pretty clearly wasn't black people there in that time.

Maybe like a trader or two in London

that's more revisionism.
I'm talking about a new IP having a gay guy for no reason.
"oh this is Stevie and he's totally gay! did I mention that he's gay?"

Well usually that's just the gay mafia

same with black guys and muslims

Big thing in positions of power, like the Jews.
Form nepotistic cliques