Message from @Sentient23
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because mental health is important
why should i suppress my pleasurie urges just because some kid willl be scared? At the end of the day, its just two pieces of meat rubbing against one another, in which one piece of meat has a chemical react in a certain way, and the other also has a chemical react in a certain way?
because mental health is fuckin important
at that point you are exposing the child to something harmful
thus infringing upon its rights
Its rights?
Are you seriously defending people who walk naked around children? @Sentient23
Lol justify that its a right to not have your mental health downplayed
@Florida Man Im demonstrating the absurdity of atheism
calm down bucko
you are right, I misspoke, I meant that it is harming the child
you don't need religion to justify that that is bad
Again, So what. Why should "mental health is important" trump my mental health which would gets an urge to sexually abuse children every 2 weeks
Yes you do
Without religion, morality is subjective
Fundamentally speaking, you can't justify it
Without appealing to a higher being
no there should be a standard in place, if it harms another being, then it is immoral
Why
and also if you are harmed by not harming other people, then a mental institution should be recommended
Wait why? I'm not harming anyone am I? And yet I'm being harmed, so its immoral for me not to molest children, but its also immoral if i molest children
you are harming the child
if you are harmed by not harming then that is immoral
Exactly
based on the same standard I already stated
See the contradiction?
no I am not
Me not molesting children is immoral
But me molesting children is immoral
So wait, if I harm another man, it's immoral, but if I don't harm another man, it's also immoral?
The latter being true entails the falsity of the former, but the former is true, but if the former is true, it entails the falsity of the latter. Which breaks the law of non contradiction
yes I misspoke
what I meant to say is that you cannot use that justification if that involves harming another being
and that an alternate solution should be prescribed then
No well those are the only two alternatives
If i get put into a mental institution i obviously don't get to rape children
If I don't get put in a mental institution, but refrain from raping children, i still get hurt
but if i decide to rape children, it would also be immoral
no but you get help to diminish that urge
no it is not immoral to be in a mental institution
You realize that's impossible
Its impossible to cure pedophiles