Message from @moira

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2020-03-10 00:28:27 UTC  

Cool but that’s not the point

2020-03-10 00:28:32 UTC  

It is the point

2020-03-10 00:28:39 UTC  

People justify their morality based on their “right and wrong”

2020-03-10 00:28:43 UTC  

I'm demonstrating how they don't go hand it hand

2020-03-10 00:28:51 UTC  

That’s based on what they’ve heard and their empathy

2020-03-10 00:28:54 UTC  

Thats emotions

2020-03-10 00:29:20 UTC  

Irrelevant? Stop shifting the goal post. Do you now agree after what I said, that acting our in a moral manner doesn't necessitate knowing why your morality is good?

2020-03-10 00:30:07 UTC  

You don’t need to bring iq into it is what i meant

2020-03-10 00:30:29 UTC  

Yes I agree

2020-03-10 00:30:49 UTC  

But I’m saying that you can justify morality based on your emotions

2020-03-10 00:31:22 UTC  

If you feel pity for someone because they’re crying, then you should think what made them cry is bad

2020-03-10 00:31:25 UTC  

No wait hold on a second

2020-03-10 00:31:31 UTC  

I won't let you get out of that one bucko

2020-03-10 00:31:45 UTC  

So you agree that you did in fact strawman me, as I never once said that atheists cannot be moral?

2020-03-10 00:33:02 UTC  

Imagine not understanding that morality can work without religion

2020-03-10 00:33:20 UTC  

Simply because I said it doesn’t mean it’s wrong

2020-03-10 00:33:32 UTC  

Its a yes or no question kiddo

2020-03-10 00:33:48 UTC  

Very simple. Or is your ego obstructing you from admitting that you mischaracterized my position?

2020-03-10 00:34:53 UTC  

Are you really going to prevent the argument from moving forward because of a mistake in what I said

2020-03-10 00:35:31 UTC  

Oh no I'm not preventing it from moving on. I'm demanding you admit you made the mistake by strawmaning me. If your ego is obstructing you from conceding such a MINOR point, why the hell would I assume you would be genuine enough to consede some MAJOR point?

2020-03-10 00:36:06 UTC  

> Are you really going to prevent the argument from moving forward because of a mistake in what I said
@moira

2020-03-10 00:36:14 UTC  

Conceded it was a mistake.

2020-03-10 00:36:29 UTC  

Indirectly. Say it directly. Say I admit i strawmaned you

2020-03-10 00:36:35 UTC  

Not that hard really

2020-03-10 00:36:43 UTC  

Shouldn't take you much if you genuinely seeked truth, right?

2020-03-10 00:36:45 UTC  

beruh

2020-03-10 00:37:04 UTC  

and who exactly has the ego here?

2020-03-10 00:37:08 UTC  

Now I’m not the problem

2020-03-10 00:37:15 UTC  

I admitted it was a mistake

2020-03-10 00:37:21 UTC  

Yet you pushed it and ignored the actual argument

2020-03-10 00:37:25 UTC  

Lmao

2020-03-10 00:37:47 UTC  

I'm not doing this for my ego buddy. I'm doing this to establish whether or not continuing a conversation with you is worth it. Simple
If you cannot concede something minor, i have no reason to believe you will be able to concede something major, if i point out a contradiction

2020-03-10 00:38:01 UTC  

No, you don't wanna admit that you strawmaned me

2020-03-10 00:38:08 UTC  

So you have to indirectly shrugg it off

2020-03-10 00:38:53 UTC  

> Simply because I said it doesn’t mean it’s wrong
@moira

2020-03-10 00:38:59 UTC  

> Are you really going to prevent the argument from moving forward because of a mistake in what I said
@moira

2020-03-10 00:39:14 UTC  

i not do foor ego u jus rong hurrr durr me fel hurt so now I got to hav somone tell me I’m right durrr

2020-03-10 00:39:56 UTC  

yea it's not for my ego, but I won't continue this argument unless you absolutely give me validation, oh yes please validate me daddy, it gives me so much joy... oh yeah oh yeah please compliment my arguments more ohhhh yeaaaaa

2020-03-10 00:40:01 UTC  

Again, indirect concedation is easier for the ego than a direect concediation. You're proving my point right now buddy.
I'm not asking you to tell me I'm right. I'm asking you to admit that you strawmaned me directly. Why is it taking you 20 minutes if you genuinely debate for the truth?

2020-03-10 00:40:11 UTC  

Again not about validation you strawmanning fuck

2020-03-10 00:40:24 UTC  

I said multiple times its for X not for Y, and yet again you keep on insisting its the Y