Message from @moira
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Cool but that’s not the point
It is the point
People justify their morality based on their “right and wrong”
I'm demonstrating how they don't go hand it hand
That’s based on what they’ve heard and their empathy
Thats emotions
Irrelevant? Stop shifting the goal post. Do you now agree after what I said, that acting our in a moral manner doesn't necessitate knowing why your morality is good?
You don’t need to bring iq into it is what i meant
Yes I agree
But I’m saying that you can justify morality based on your emotions
If you feel pity for someone because they’re crying, then you should think what made them cry is bad
No wait hold on a second
I won't let you get out of that one bucko
So you agree that you did in fact strawman me, as I never once said that atheists cannot be moral?
Imagine not understanding that morality can work without religion
Simply because I said it doesn’t mean it’s wrong
Its a yes or no question kiddo
Very simple. Or is your ego obstructing you from admitting that you mischaracterized my position?
Are you really going to prevent the argument from moving forward because of a mistake in what I said
Oh no I'm not preventing it from moving on. I'm demanding you admit you made the mistake by strawmaning me. If your ego is obstructing you from conceding such a MINOR point, why the hell would I assume you would be genuine enough to consede some MAJOR point?
> Are you really going to prevent the argument from moving forward because of a mistake in what I said
@moira
Conceded it was a mistake.
Indirectly. Say it directly. Say I admit i strawmaned you
Not that hard really
Shouldn't take you much if you genuinely seeked truth, right?
beruh
and who exactly has the ego here?
Now I’m not the problem
I admitted it was a mistake
Yet you pushed it and ignored the actual argument
Lmao
I'm not doing this for my ego buddy. I'm doing this to establish whether or not continuing a conversation with you is worth it. Simple
If you cannot concede something minor, i have no reason to believe you will be able to concede something major, if i point out a contradiction
No, you don't wanna admit that you strawmaned me
So you have to indirectly shrugg it off
> Are you really going to prevent the argument from moving forward because of a mistake in what I said
@moira
i not do foor ego u jus rong hurrr durr me fel hurt so now I got to hav somone tell me I’m right durrr
yea it's not for my ego, but I won't continue this argument unless you absolutely give me validation, oh yes please validate me daddy, it gives me so much joy... oh yeah oh yeah please compliment my arguments more ohhhh yeaaaaa
Again, indirect concedation is easier for the ego than a direect concediation. You're proving my point right now buddy.
I'm not asking you to tell me I'm right. I'm asking you to admit that you strawmaned me directly. Why is it taking you 20 minutes if you genuinely debate for the truth?
Again not about validation you strawmanning fuck
I said multiple times its for X not for Y, and yet again you keep on insisting its the Y