i changed my mind

I'll just put some hamburgers in the middle of a fenced in area

you literally cant give a straight answer why

why is slavery disgusting

Then watch you complain it doesnt have cheese 😄

@Yotta My point I'm trying to show you with this fiasco is that you cannot objectively claim that any moral is indeed moral

Because nothing "earthly" can be objectively true

Thus as a consequence there must be something objective in order for the universe to function

Thus, God

He left.

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Does the Bible truly promote slavery?

@Eoppa answer it

Eoppa is our in-house Bishop

Promote would be the wrong word, it simply didn't condemn it. And slavery was a bit different than the modern type, it was more similar to employment or indentured servitude. It allowed you to sell your labor to pay off debt.

If you kidnapped someone to be a slave or such that's a sin

Thats interesting, does the Church Fathers have their take in it?

I'd have to take to Google for that, I believe Christ instructed slaves to obey their masters, and that's all I know that isn't in the Old Covenant.

```Fifth, while the Christian Empire didn't immediately outlaw slavery, some Church fathers (such as Gregory of Nyssa and John Chrysostom) strongly denounced it. But then, the state has often failed to enact a just social order in accordance with Church teachings.``` that's from the first result.

I've always took slavery to be something that optimally should be avoided but isn't intrinsically wrong.

I see, what about the different interpretations?
Can it be interpreted differently that the Bible does condemn slavery?

Now that i thought about it, maids and butlers are quite similar to slaves

There is an argument that slavery is less dignified than freedom, and it would be charitable to not take them as a slave.

Yes of course there is that

I remember that American African guy who has told me about how his great great grandfather used to love his owner

Both the Old and New Testament condemn slave trading and such.
```Deuteronomy 24:7
[7]If any man be found soliciting his brother of the children of Israel, and selling him shall take a price, he shall be put to death, and thou shalt take away the evil from the midst of thee.```

Amen

Say, will there be another one like Saint Thomas Aquinas?

its very hard to argue against Aquinas

Aquinas was a man that brought huge theology to The Church regarding God and all

I mean, I think Aquinas the was last Saint that brought that much to the table. There was Augustine and Anselm and such before him. After him I'm not sure if there was anyone better.

There have appeared either people that have brought ideas that have been condemned or people that realized their "unsual" ideals have been brought up and kinda accepted

Nothing is truly new under the sun, they said to themselves

Palamas is sort of like the Orthodox Aquinas

Gregory Palamas

Ye

Personally I think the EE introduces a composition into the Godhead, but that's something that I leave to those more well read on that area of the theology

Thats where i kinda stepped in

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I'm that guy who spend their time wondering about God and His Power, all the claims about paradoxes and such

Just to then find himself digging endlessly into it most of the times