Message from @Punishmented
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thats what catholics believe in đŸ¤”
father son and holy spirit
All Christians believe in father, son, and holy spirit @Ater Votum
They are all equally God
3 parts to One Whole
catholics pray to saints doe đŸ¤¢
yes, so is this is bad
They are distinct persons, but one simple essence
There is one Divine Essence which is called and which is God: eternal, without body, without parts, of infinite power, wisdom, and goodness, the Maker and Preserver of all things, visible and invisible; and yet there are three Persons, of the same essence and power, who also are coeternal, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. And the term "person" used as the Fathers have used it, to signify, not a part or quality in another, but that which subsists of itself.
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thank you jango.
Gnosticism
No
Yes.
No
Heresy of the early church
There is no distinction between essence and energy, correct
There is the Father and the Son which permanently emanate the Holy Spirit
That is correct
Yes
the ousia isnt the same as the energies of god
That would contradict the first council of Nicaea
How?
When it very clearly talks on the topic of Divine Unity
So youre calling me an arian?
I cannot say what you truly believe, but I'm just saying your statement contradicts what was said at an infallible ecumenical council
Perhaps you are, but maybe just mistaken
How does that contradict the council though
@CaballerĂa#9458
Well it is an introduction of division within the trinity, and even to some extent suggests polytheism
Not to mention definitely regarded a Heresy
He must be Eastern Orthodox. That's where the distinction between essence and energy lies.
Well I assumed that
No one else would assert that distinction
@CaballerĂa do distinct persons imply division and polytheism
If anything ADS means monism
Distinct persons as a result of His oneness
@Eoppa is gods love and grace eternal