We can look up the statistics for abortion, rape, murder, STDs in all "trad orthoducks" nation's and see how much higher they are than secular/ even Catholic states

You'll find that for most of them it's lower because most secular and Catholic states have north Africans or sub Saharan Africans

Thing is most of the "trad orthoduck" nations are full with crypto atheists just like in western nations

Sad...can't believe Christ would allow this to happen to his one true church..

I wonder why people turn away

Abortion in eastern Europe is a direct result of the pasts communist influence.

It has nothing to do with the recent rise in Orthodoxy.

As for rape murder and stds Catholic nations have that in droves.

On top of the fact that the papal office supports homosexuality and female clergy.

It's up to the younger generation to restore the good old days of Christianity and do activities like Jewish and homosexual pogroms

You realize that you accusing the papacy of supporting female clergy is over something Orthodoxy already does?

I was under the impression that female ordination was not allowed in the RCC?

It's not

The controversy is in regards to deaconesses

Are they allowed to preach and/or give the sacraments?

Me : “Yeah Revelation 3:9 says that Jews are the Synagogue of satan”
Atheist, who likely hasn’t read the bible at all : “ACKTUALLY It’s not saying that”

@Deleted User If an athiest says "but muh it says 'who say they are Jews but are not' so like it's not saying Jews its saying muh whatever'

If they actually read the Bible, it says a "real" Jew is one who accepts Christ, and at that point their not exactly a Jew anymore

"but muh racial Jews whatabout them"
Jesus rebuked a racial Jew for claiming superiority because they are decendants of Abraham, saying "I can take a rock and make him a decendant of Abraham"

Lemme find the verse

Matthew 3:9

Atheists and pagans have absolutely no concept of Theology or Religion

I'm sure that's a completely well thought out opinion

Yes

Yes

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Even academic atheists who are extremely well versed in philosophy typically are trash at best at theology

Any atheist who genuinely verses himself in religion eventually finds God anyways

Exhibit A is Edward Feser who is one of my favorite modern philosophers

@Eoppa Could you give me a brief run down of him?

I’ve never heard of him but now my interest is peaked

He wrote 5 proofs for the existence of God, Aquinas, Aristotle's Revenge, Locke, By Man Shall His Blood Be Shed, etc. He is a professor, and was priorly an atheist. He decided to read more Aquinas to teach it better and then slowly realized he was correct, and converted to Catholicism.

I think i’ve heard of him before

Only slightly though

You'll typically hear most Thomists now reference him when they want clarification

Definitely add him to my reading list

Along with Aquinas

It may be useful to read *Aquinas* by Feser before reading Aquinas himself, he explains the philosophy Aquinas was operating on which is very important