Message from @Sentient23
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of course not that is obvious
but that would mean its finite
Its a hypothetical fucking question illustrating the validity of premise 3
You cant give X if u dont have X
Because in order to give is to have
How does that prove God exists
Doktor i said ill explain later dont interject please
Fine
its not validating anything
how does that not go in your brain
if we talk about infinity then it has always been there and theres nothing logically proving this
that it cant be infinity
Yeah you are just mentally handicapped
@Eoppa you can take on this hole if you have the patience
all youre saying is if you have a finite timeline there has to be a start and im saying but were talking about infinity
im out
I never mentioned time..
I never mentioned cosmology
I mentioned ONTOLOGY
I mentioned HIERARCHICAL structure of change
dont even know tf that means
just because the idea of an infinite timeline doesnt make sense in our brain doesnt mean it cant be like that
Ok then dont speak bs and instead ask me to elaborate
well this just makes no sense
No i never said "it makes no sense thus impossible"
I said its ILLOGICAL thus its impossible
i still dont believe that theres no starting point.
Do you know the difference between a heirarchical structure and linear structure of change?
its just whatever i dont even think we were talking about the same thing
and no
its not important if you argue scientifically
well maybe it does
Hierarchical structure of change is that under which if the cause ceases the exist, so does the effect
Now, IF you don't have a phone, can you give me a phone?
You see how the begining says "IF you dont have a phone" - so no, the answer cant be "well what if the phone has always existed"
that makes sense
ok, so you agree that you cant give X if you dont have x
yes
Okay
so basically it goes like this if i have a phone i can dial a number if i dial a number i can call someone