dude

how is this an argument against the first way?

This is an issue of free will

Its not, its an argument against omnipotence and freewill

What? How?

its literally like

@moira Presenting 'arguments' in a joking or mocking way is not permitted.

oh

How does this in any way rebutt omnipotence

i see what he's getting at

i don't understand this argument though

like, the fact that God knows what will happen doesn't debunk free will

Just because He knows what you will do doesn't mean He made you do it or predetermined you to do it

Are you arguing in favor of theological fatalism Lux?

is that the argument?

If so

The argument is formally invalid

And it commits a fallacy in propositiional logic as the inference rule is invalid

It doesnt follow that you will necessarily do something

What follows, is that you will do something, not necessarily though

you could do Y instead of X

Idk if thats the argument

You're trying to propose,

God know all. God make all. God make you think you have free will...


But really god knows what you will eat for breakfast before you go to bed everynight. So if god is all powerful, you didnt choose your breakfast. God already did when he made you. He just didnt let you in on it.

How does this rebutt omnipotence?

@Sentient23 what you are saying there isnt addressing my point

Because I don't know what your point is

it sounds VERY similarly to theological fatalism

why is it

and its implications on morality and free will

Christians dont get it

lol I get it, im saying your argument is formally invalid

Have i explained it badly

Its a fallacy in propositional logic

I am familiar with theological fatalism mate

Its formally invalid, it doesnt follow that you will necessarily do X, the only thing that follows is that you will do x, but you COULD do y, as its not necessary for you to do X

ye but

you cant rebutt it

i just did lol

Its invalid syllogism

Yeah but god already knows what will happen in all timelines, right?