Message from @moira
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I asked how is it harmful
Then you provided a definition of religion
Which was flawed
It's harmful because the ideas are placed without a solid axiomatic grounding
As i said above
Is the big bang theory not axiomatic?
??
Mate
Is it without any problems?
Do you even know what an axiom is Lux?
If an idea doesn't have an axiom, then its even more valid than one which does
axioms are unjustified foundations of beliefs
Some axioms are justifiable, via trascendental arguments
Which some Christians use to prove theism
but regardless
A core unjustified belief.
I know
Alright, so what's the point of saying what you say? if its unjustified, what is a "solid unjustification" lol
Yes, a belief in the betterment of people would require the extrapolation of what that means, but to follow that with a god is to neccessisarily presume the god before the betterment of people, resulting in that axiom being ungrounded and being a follow if the axiom of the god. Like I said, if it were more modern and was capable of change, I wouldn't mind as much, but that's not we typically talk about when we say religion
What the hell does any of what you just said mean lol, this is an epitome of a word salad
You just basically said "if its contrary to my axiom, its not solid"
Your example was terrible, just describe what you mean yourself instead of bringing up non sensical examples
Is this hard to understand?
You tell me, if you understood it you could just explain it instead of bringing up non sensical examples
A theologian presumes a god before the axiom
Then its not an axiom if there is a "before", before the axiom
An axiom is the most foundational fundamental core to your belief
Which is unjustifiable
Exactly
if there's something prior to it, its not an axiom
which is my point
What??
It's not a well-grounded axiom
I just rebutted your sentence
My point is that its not an axioms
If there's something prior to it
You interrupted me
Because an axiom by definition is the foundation, if something is prior to it, its not the foundation, but that thing which is prior to that thing you say is an axiom, is the real axiom
Well yes the axioms come before all other beliefs, that's how they function.
That's what I was already saying
I'm correcting your assertion