```1 John 1:9 – If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.```

```Psalm 103:10-14 – He has not punished us as we deserve for all our sins, for his mercy toward those who fear and honor him is as great as the height of the heavens above the earth. He has removed our sins as far away from us as the east is from the west. He is like a father to us, tender and sympathetic to those who reverence him. For he knows we are but dust.```

first one explains that you can be forgiven

second one helps explain this further

''He has not punished us as we deserve for all our sins, for his mercy toward those who fear and honor him is as great as the height of the heavens above the earth''

God has mercy for you if you are to accept him

but you will still be punished

God's mercy isn't necessarily expressed in the material plane

you are forgiven however and punished less than those that do not accept him

@OrthoGoat I dont see the part where you are still punished

considering the implications of the bible, and its nature it most def means its about the material plain

'''He has not punished us as we deserve for all our sins''

Christians wouldn't have been persecuted if that was true.

''for his mercy ''

because God's mercy would have prevented that

what?

I dont see how that implies punishment after forgiveness

im not making that point

https://catholicexchange.com/misericordia-the-roots-of-mercy

Its saying we deserve punishment but God has forgiven uss

@Maksim It clearly states that for those that worship god ''for all our sins, for his mercy toward those who fear and honor him is as great as the height of the heavens above the earth''
, they will be forgiven for some of their sins.'' He has not punished us as we deserve for''

The mercy of God is our salvation through his acceptance of our suffering or works

@OrthoGoat Yea and?

The inverse is being forgotten by God. Sent to the place without him

and there we go

It dosent say nor imply punsihment after forgiveness

thats my point

it literally does because it explains that there is still punishment, but less

read it

actually read it

use your eyes

It dosent

open them

Have you ever considered God and the Devil are fundamentally the same thing

Because God is in all things

Dualistic expression of a father disguising the unity of all things

No where does it say or imply punishment after forgiveness

''He has not punished us as we deserve for all our sins'' literally says that we are not punished enough (reffering to the normal punishment one would receive) because we ''those who fear and honor him is as great as the height of the heavens above the earth'' worship him ''fear and honor him is as great as the height of the heavens above the earth''

Existence is a punishment because it guarantees suffering, death and an inevitable decay into the beast system

We live in a world that is built on sacrificing other living organisms for our own existence

i mean i made it extremely clear

@OrthoGoat No it dosent. 'He has not punished us as we deserve for all our sins'' is talking about how we deserve punishment but we dont get any because we have been forgiven