Message from @Mr. Kat

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2020-03-19 20:23:12 UTC  

Samaratins were an actual group of people though, perhaps it's worth considering the relationship between the Jewish people and Samaria to understand the parable

2020-03-19 20:23:22 UTC  

Depends if the Good Samaritan was in mortal sin at the time of their death

2020-03-19 20:23:44 UTC  

Oh I got it wrong kms

2020-03-19 20:24:24 UTC  

It's a different ethnoreligious group similar to Judaism that would have existed in modern day Palestine

2020-03-19 20:24:45 UTC  

The Jews and Samaritans didn't really get along. In spite of that, the Samaritan helped the fallen jew.

2020-03-19 20:26:26 UTC  

The question is asking if ethnic/ religious adversaries who show mercy upon you are deserving of salvation.

2020-03-19 20:27:26 UTC  

Showing mercy upon someone one time doesn't grant you a free pass

2020-03-19 20:27:48 UTC  

Why show mercy at all then

2020-03-19 20:27:53 UTC  

It depends entirely on the rest of your life, whether you committed mortal sin, whether you were Baptised, etc.

2020-03-19 20:28:15 UTC  

what does being baptised grant you

2020-03-19 20:29:22 UTC  

Grace

2020-03-19 20:30:13 UTC  

There are gnostic denominations like the Manadeans that also practice baptism, does that give them Grace?

2020-03-19 20:30:56 UTC  

They call it Baptism, that does not make it so

2020-03-19 20:31:22 UTC  

Baptism can only be performed by the Catholic Church

2020-03-19 20:31:49 UTC  

The Manadeans consider John the Baptist a prophet, it's not like they're not Christian

2020-03-19 20:32:27 UTC  

There is only one Christian Church, the one founded by Jesus on the rock of Peter

2020-03-19 20:32:41 UTC  

What beliefs do Samatarians hold?

2020-03-19 20:33:02 UTC  
2020-03-19 20:33:16 UTC  

They believe themselves to be the original jews essentially.

2020-03-19 20:34:10 UTC  

@ComradeChaos but still continue holding their beliefs regarding Torah, Yehva and other Jewish aspects?

2020-03-19 20:35:15 UTC  

As far as I'm aware they strictly follow the torah

2020-03-19 20:35:29 UTC  

so kind of like Orthodox Jews? @ComradeChaos

2020-03-19 20:35:44 UTC  

Essentially, but I think they would still view the Orthodox as corrupted by time

2020-03-19 20:35:47 UTC  

dont orthodox jews also follow the talmud?

2020-03-19 20:36:02 UTC  

Hence the "corrupted by time" part

2020-03-19 20:36:06 UTC  

ahhh

2020-03-19 20:38:19 UTC  

Anyways, since I'm not sure was that question dedicated to all of religions or just some religion I am not aware of but for the sake of it, from Islamic views they are still to be regarded as every other Dhimni, if they are acting and behaving in good manners, they are to be awarded for their deeds on Dunya (this world) and as for the punishment that is to come in Akhira (Other world, mainly Heaven and Hell) it is up to Allah (swt) to decide

2020-03-20 05:09:45 UTC  

I think when we die we're reabsorbed by negative existence until God has a need for us again. I don't think you should base your mercy on denomination and that principally the point of life is to establish a better future for your children and the wider future. We've been nearly taken out by floods and asteroids in the past, a better future is going to ultimately be built through both cooperation, philosophy and an understanding of what can't be forgiven in spite of their works to benefit you. I don't think people will actually do this, but it would be a nice world.

2020-03-20 05:20:30 UTC  

There's nothing new under the sun so people who were like us in spirit must have existed in the past, maybe the reward for a life well lived is the absence of a host and by extension, material suffering. If God is all, then that would be hell, but if God is not then union with the God unmanifest is true reintegration.

2020-03-20 14:39:42 UTC  

So, I was thinking that maybe everybody just finds their own way to get by. Differences between people's way of survival are called out as sin, but we are all really just trying to get by.

2020-03-20 16:23:10 UTC  

<@&588707615643795456> Daily Question 🔖

- What is your basis for believing your holy book/God is true and correct? Why?

2020-03-20 16:23:33 UTC  

Because I know it’s the case

2020-03-20 16:23:34 UTC  

I have no Holy Book. <:Chad:591182354270257170>

2020-03-20 16:23:41 UTC  

25,000+ archaeological digs supporting the historicity of events in the Bible

2020-03-20 16:24:05 UTC  

That’s nothing

2020-03-20 16:24:08 UTC  

I have faith

2020-03-20 16:25:02 UTC  

@Attika I hope so. And for all that I study, I am often gifted the feeling of reassurance to the statements made.

2020-03-20 16:25:34 UTC  

Thats a good answer