God sent a messenger Jesus Christ only for him to get crucified. Am i to assume he will help or not? It is the burden of irresponsibility the people have set upon themselves. The people are to self-indulged in their own entertainment they would rather look up to superman than God. But then again God has no emotion, he manufactured creation, power, energy and life.

But he won’t protect us

God is transcendental in nature.

God gives us the tools to protect ourselves

But Divine intervention is something that happens from time to time

```Genesis 15:1
[1]Now when these things were done, the word of the Lord came to Abram by a vision, saying: Fear not, Abram, I am thy protector, and thy reward exceeding great.```

```Psalms 3:3
[3]But thou, O Lord, art my protector, my glory, and the lifter up of my head.```

To deny God as a protector is totally anti biblical

The only way God is able to represent himself in our universe is through the "Holy Spirit" because he is transcendental in nature.

No

The holy sprit is most common though

But what about Jesus

He was here once

The Holy Spirit guided the Son

He utilizes this holy spirit form to help those in desperate need or who are misguided.

The Son walked here with us.

The son is part of god as much as the holy sprit is

The Father as well is very active

Yes

Jesus is divine flesh right?

It's a hypostatic union

Fully man, fully God. The flesh is not God itself.

For the Son always existed

Jesus and Mary both received glorified bodies though

@Eoppafully man and fully god is a paradox.
Man is a distinct entity and even moreso god

Fully God would mean it would be literally impossible for jesus to be crucified as he would have eternal life

@MENELIK THE IMPENETRABLE that's entirely false. Jesus shares the divine essence, which is of course immutable, but when acting on the flesh you are not trying to move the divine act. That's why I said the flesh itself is not God.

His person, his essence is shared with God the Son.

Not the body.

Two natures, one person

So if their essence Is the same why did jesus cry out to god when he was being crucified?
He asked god " father why have you forsaken me"
If god the father and god then son shared the same essence then jesus would know that god will never depart from him

> @MENELIK THE IMPENETRABLE that's entirely false. Jesus shares the divine essence, which is of course immutable, but when acting on the flesh you are not trying to move the divine act. That's why I said the flesh itself is not God.
@Eoppa
So how can the desires of the flesh overcome the desires of the divine

The 'cry out' was actually a quote from Psalms that predicted Christ and proclaimed God, it wasn't the flesh overcoming anything. Anachronistically it was for the Jews to recognize he was the messiah.

```they have pierced my hands and feet , they have numbered all my bones```

It was said when you suffered.

@MENELIK THE IMPENETRABLE

Jesus had never sinned, never did any desire contradict.

I never said he sinned, my argument was :
If god and jesus share the same essence, then why would jesus cry out for help

If he knew god was with him, he would be at peace

Did you not read what I said

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