Oh I know, I don't use it for in depth analysis

But for just reading

For in-depth I personally opt for kjv just because I grew up with it

I'll sometimes use KJVA, I grew up with KJV too

My Bible study leader, he uses CEB for reading and your DR edition for studying

Why did kjv become so popular

It seems like it's the most commonly used

Or at least most widely known

it should be dhouay rheims

I haven't looked too far into it, but it probably has to do with the King wanting to get rid of the books the Catholic church recognized and such.

Catholic Church is true church

so

Yes

@Eoppa u here?

Now I am

@Eoppa since you are familiar with "purus actus" or the "argument from motion" can you explain to me how does it prove a god?

it proves there must be something

and it doesn't have to be god

the argument just labels it as god

why couldn't it have been something that was actual in the previous instance of time? because the argument implicitly assumes that things are not in causal relations through time only in a specific instance of time

It proves there must be an omnipotent/omniscient, perfect, non composed, one immutable being.

It doesn't assume things are not causal over time

Only that there are essential and accidental causation, they are two sides of the same coin

how does it prove omnipotent, omniscient, perfect and that it must be a being?

also isn't omnipotent a self contradicting attribute?

A "Being" is just something that exists. Pure act is the purely actual actualizer, there is nothing that it cannot make actual because it actualizes the very being of everything.

Omnipotent if not defined is contradictory

Omnipotent we define as the ability to actualize any potential

well real omnipotence is contradictory

all powerful is not possible

all powerful is not possible

so it would always be quasi-omnipotence

"Real omnipotence" is just a strawman

Power is just the ability to do something

If you can do anything (make any potency actual) you are omnipotent

But could it acutalize itself?

It is purely actual

omnipotence literally means all powerful i.e. the ability to do anything

It is devoid of potential

You haven't formalized that

> Omnipotent we define as the ability to actualize any potential
@Eoppa btw this doesn't solve the problem of the stone that is so heavy that the almighty cannot lift it