Message from @Deleted User

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2020-03-02 17:12:58 UTC  

Dark times.

2020-03-02 17:13:03 UTC  

oh were they rioting as to who should of won a race?

2020-03-02 17:13:12 UTC  

sorry - not very educated.

2020-03-02 17:14:44 UTC  

Segregation and that shiet

2020-03-02 17:14:46 UTC  
2020-03-02 17:14:55 UTC  

oh right

2020-03-02 17:14:57 UTC  

like osmosis

2020-03-02 17:15:14 UTC  

Ye

2020-03-02 17:15:21 UTC  

💀

2020-03-02 17:15:27 UTC  

Even Detroit's army got involved.

2020-03-02 17:15:31 UTC  

To end the disturbance.

2020-03-02 17:15:33 UTC  

national guard*

2020-03-02 17:15:57 UTC  

States don't have armies @Koninos

2020-03-02 17:16:14 UTC  

You know what I mean.

2020-03-02 17:16:30 UTC  

Yeah I do

2020-03-02 17:16:31 UTC  

Anyways

2020-03-02 19:48:02 UTC  

Present your argument against idealism

2020-03-02 19:48:04 UTC  

First of all

2020-03-02 19:48:05 UTC  

Go.

2020-03-02 19:48:16 UTC  

I'd like for you to exhibit where I called idealism untruthy and ridiculous.

2020-03-02 19:48:23 UTC  

Just so I can get a picture of where you're coming from with this

2020-03-02 19:48:36 UTC  

Or whether or not you're going off of pure inference

2020-03-02 19:49:22 UTC  

I'm well acquainted with the typical types of the right-wingers with their aggressive tactics

2020-03-02 19:49:25 UTC  

By asserting that idealism is for the weak minded, and right after that asserting that the real truth is that after we die, we don't know anything, you've indirectly rejected idealism
by saying its for the weak minded, you obviously implied it was ridiculous, since if its for the weak minded, the only reason people would adopt the belief was to cope

2020-03-02 19:49:43 UTC  

This is basic social cues 101

2020-03-02 19:49:57 UTC  

First of all - I'll acknowledge my theory as to what idealism really is and what it's purpose is.

2020-03-02 19:50:22 UTC  

Idealism is nothing more than a tool of crowd control - used to build civilisations and societies by instilling social norms, morales and a moral compass.

2020-03-02 19:51:03 UTC  

The original intention with demanding a debate here was to substantiate your implicit rejection of idealism, which you thus far haven't done. The only thing you have done was repeatedly re assert that idealism is ridiculous, and is a coping mechanism used by the weak to compensate

2020-03-02 19:51:13 UTC  

Are you listening then

2020-03-02 19:51:24 UTC  

I am listening, hence my response calling out what you're just doing

2020-03-02 19:52:46 UTC  

Idealists use immaterial abstractions such as mythology and stories of special circumstances to teach these morales - whilst also instilling the existence of a superior being into the mind - making the self acknowledge that their actions are being supervised and monitored - subject to judgement upon death.

2020-03-02 19:52:51 UTC  

This is nothing new.

2020-03-02 19:53:02 UTC  

It's a classic system of justice - which we use in modern societies nowadays.

2020-03-02 19:53:18 UTC  

Can i respond now?

2020-03-02 19:53:28 UTC  

We instil into children from young that certain things are not to be replicated as it will lead to prison sentence and punishment.

2020-03-02 19:53:32 UTC  

Yeah sure.

2020-03-02 19:54:16 UTC  

Your mere description of idealism presupposes the rejection of idealism. No person which accepts idealism describes idealism as "a tool of crowd control". Only people that do do that are materialists who already reject idealism. So I'm asking you once again, refute idealism. You cannot keep on presupposing that its false and yet not bring a single argument against it

2020-03-02 19:54:56 UTC  

Well in all honesty - I can't view idealism from a idealist's viewpoint merely from the fact that I have learnt the criticism of it from a materialist viewpoint.

2020-03-02 19:55:11 UTC  

Then present the Criticism of it which you've learnt

2020-03-02 19:55:15 UTC  

I have.

2020-03-02 19:55:20 UTC  

It's function as a tool of control