Message from @Iron

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2020-03-25 12:06:31 UTC  

And hit a new low with the fall of communism in the 80's

2020-03-25 12:06:42 UTC  

Since then there has not been much talk of inter-slavic relations

2020-03-25 12:08:05 UTC  

I believe pan-Slavism is inevitable - but i am unsure if i will be alive to see it.

2020-03-25 12:09:03 UTC  

If you want Russia to do anything else than being controlled by corrupted oligarchs, it’s Putin’s time to go

2020-03-25 12:09:06 UTC  

The leader cult may be a good opportunity here, since it does seem to leak outside of the Russia. Sizable portion of general public in slavic countries equates Russian government with Putin. The new leader should have a window to convince people that Russia have changed.

2020-03-25 12:09:48 UTC  

Germany was made into a single nation by a Strong Leader

2020-03-25 12:09:48 UTC  

If he'll just sit here and do nothing for a year or two, or continue the current politics, view won't change. Otherwise, there's a good chance.

2020-03-25 12:09:55 UTC  

I believe so is necessary for the Slavs to Unite

2020-03-25 12:10:30 UTC  

Putin is probably recent Vepsian who isn’t loyal to Russian people and has betrayed fugrics

2020-03-25 12:10:31 UTC  

Before Otto, there was not even the concept of a pan-german state, no pan-german language

2020-03-25 12:10:37 UTC  

But with his leadership, it happen

2020-03-25 12:10:58 UTC  

If the Slavs are to unite, a powerful leader must do it.

2020-03-25 12:11:44 UTC  

If they unite, it must he in their best interests long term and not under threat or coercion.

2020-03-25 12:12:05 UTC  

The Slavs occupy unbelievable swaths of land, are are the largest White Cohort in existence

2020-03-25 12:12:09 UTC  

Intense political polarization, not unlikely also supported by the current Russia itself, may make it hard for potential leader to emerge and be accepted.

2020-03-25 12:12:10 UTC  

If united, their power - would be unmatched

2020-03-25 12:12:28 UTC  

Very doubtful.

2020-03-25 12:12:35 UTC  

So yeah, I agree that in accordance to your wishes, Putin is very bad leader.

2020-03-25 12:13:11 UTC  

I believe the first step towards Pan-Slavism would be setting up a supranational government similar to the EU, but for Slavic Nations

2020-03-25 12:13:15 UTC  

Their culure, in many slav nations is disgusting.

2020-03-25 12:13:36 UTC  

Will fight for Poland though.

2020-03-25 12:13:42 UTC  

Does it have place for national states, or would it be more like EU vision by Spinelli?

2020-03-25 12:14:42 UTC  

@AsdfgQwert Gradual Integration

2020-03-25 12:15:01 UTC  

For example, slowly merging national parliaments

2020-03-25 12:15:35 UTC  

Integration of the militaries

2020-03-25 12:15:45 UTC  

A court to settle disputes

2020-03-25 12:16:08 UTC  

A huge boost to promoting cultural unity

2020-03-25 12:16:33 UTC  

Globalism!

2020-03-25 12:16:44 UTC  

Local globalism?

2020-03-25 12:16:51 UTC  

Not Globalism, and not local Globalism

2020-03-25 12:16:55 UTC  

Thats not a thing.

2020-03-25 12:16:59 UTC  

It is nationalism in the purest sense of the word

2020-03-25 12:17:13 UTC  

It is the very opposite of nationalism.

2020-03-25 12:17:19 UTC  

What about the final intent though, should slavic nations dissolve and turn into subgroups of one nation?

2020-03-25 12:17:38 UTC  

Its erase of the nation towards the whole, a murky mess of vaguely relayed things.

2020-03-25 12:17:40 UTC  

@AsdfgQwert There shouldnt be those subgroups to speak of - a united Slavic nation is needed.

2020-03-25 12:17:55 UTC  

Reasonable for the plan, but the final intent would need to be hidden from the population. Otherwise, big sways such as pairing with Germany, USA or even China could occur.

2020-03-25 12:18:00 UTC  

subgroups were invented by those who wish to divide and conquer

2020-03-25 12:18:04 UTC  

Same as the EU. It erodes the nation-state and supplants it.

2020-03-25 12:18:28 UTC  

The EU is attempting to merge compltley different cultural groups

2020-03-25 12:18:30 UTC  

I am not