Message from @Iron

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2020-03-25 12:13:11 UTC  

I believe the first step towards Pan-Slavism would be setting up a supranational government similar to the EU, but for Slavic Nations

2020-03-25 12:13:15 UTC  

Their culure, in many slav nations is disgusting.

2020-03-25 12:13:36 UTC  

Will fight for Poland though.

2020-03-25 12:13:42 UTC  

Does it have place for national states, or would it be more like EU vision by Spinelli?

2020-03-25 12:14:42 UTC  

@AsdfgQwert Gradual Integration

2020-03-25 12:15:01 UTC  

For example, slowly merging national parliaments

2020-03-25 12:15:35 UTC  

Integration of the militaries

2020-03-25 12:15:45 UTC  

A court to settle disputes

2020-03-25 12:16:08 UTC  

A huge boost to promoting cultural unity

2020-03-25 12:16:33 UTC  

Globalism!

2020-03-25 12:16:44 UTC  

Local globalism?

2020-03-25 12:16:51 UTC  

Not Globalism, and not local Globalism

2020-03-25 12:16:55 UTC  

Thats not a thing.

2020-03-25 12:16:59 UTC  

It is nationalism in the purest sense of the word

2020-03-25 12:17:13 UTC  

It is the very opposite of nationalism.

2020-03-25 12:17:19 UTC  

What about the final intent though, should slavic nations dissolve and turn into subgroups of one nation?

2020-03-25 12:17:38 UTC  

Its erase of the nation towards the whole, a murky mess of vaguely relayed things.

2020-03-25 12:17:40 UTC  

@AsdfgQwert There shouldnt be those subgroups to speak of - a united Slavic nation is needed.

2020-03-25 12:17:55 UTC  

Reasonable for the plan, but the final intent would need to be hidden from the population. Otherwise, big sways such as pairing with Germany, USA or even China could occur.

2020-03-25 12:18:00 UTC  

subgroups were invented by those who wish to divide and conquer

2020-03-25 12:18:04 UTC  

Same as the EU. It erodes the nation-state and supplants it.

2020-03-25 12:18:28 UTC  

The EU is attempting to merge compltley different cultural groups

2020-03-25 12:18:30 UTC  

I am not

2020-03-25 12:18:36 UTC  

Slavs are a singular cultural group

2020-03-25 12:19:11 UTC  

They share common aspects, sure.

2020-03-25 12:19:24 UTC  

If you have a bunch of Celtic towns, and you propose to have a singular government between these Celtic towns - by your logic that is globalism

2020-03-25 12:19:36 UTC  

Your vision of what is globalism inevitably leads to localism

2020-03-25 12:19:48 UTC  

Slavs are too varied.

2020-03-25 12:20:00 UTC  

You imply that has always been the case

2020-03-25 12:20:04 UTC  

And that it cant be fixed

2020-03-25 12:20:12 UTC  

Nationalists aren't more likely to give up to pan-slavic nation than they are to EU. You'd have to do something with them, and that's quite dangerous and delicate operation, prone to massive failures.

2020-03-25 12:20:15 UTC  

I despise globalism and would much prefer localism.

2020-03-25 12:20:39 UTC  

Localism never works

2020-03-25 12:20:44 UTC  

Fixed, that sounds like the Soviets with the New Soviet Man. That is exactly what they tried to do.

2020-03-25 12:20:55 UTC  

Works better than globalism.

2020-03-25 12:21:02 UTC  

Japan does well by it.

2020-03-25 12:21:19 UTC  

Did.

2020-03-25 12:21:26 UTC  

Does.

2020-03-25 12:21:45 UTC  

Great balance of nationalism and interface to communicate with external World.

2020-03-25 12:21:57 UTC  

Following this train of logic that iron proposes, Germany has no right to exist

2020-03-25 12:22:14 UTC  

Because it merged many different cultures, languages, and heritages