It's just at this point, in 2020, there aren't really any good arguments left for theism.

and people have better access to these arguments than ever before, for the past several decades even

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> no it isn't lol
@Spider Sutra >Sub
Abortion negates the purpose of sex as procreative act and facilitates a culture of hedonism, sex for self pleasure. No better than masturbation. Support abortion and you lose any moral traction against sodomy or any other sexual sin.

so why be a theist at this point I'm just asking

Sex has benefits as I mentioned earlier.

pleasure is only one of them 😋

Give me one argument that does not include the problem of induction

> You read Marcus Aurelius?
@Mongolite II It's on my list and in my library.

I think its fuentes with his catholic nazism or what ever he called it

People have time to stay home and learn something, and they better.

@Tome_Enthusiast While not a perfect scripture on rationality, he presents good arguments regarding it.

Thats why their theists although idk them personaly

Definitely worth the read

So its just a shot at the dark

@Mongolite II Aight. Will pick him up again soon.

I’m trying to find more book about rationality

Suggestions?

Cause all i can think of at the moment is Thomas Aquinas

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Jordan Peterson?

Oof

@closedanger oof

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I like him

Not one bit

@closedanger let me put it this way

Jordan Peterson their is order and disorder and blah blah blah

Jordan Peterson tells me to clean my room but he can’t even clean his tranquilizer addiction

if you buy into peterson's story telling rhetoric, you should have no problem with my argument for why true men are sexually submissive @closedanger

does not mean that his advice was not sound, does it now?

Men can be subs, yes

@Mongolite II Like, argumentation, or reasoned thinking?

I refuse to clean my room because disorder is just another form of order

wtf I'm not depressed or an incel anymore thank you peterson that 49.99 I spent on your book sure was worth it

Logos

@Tome_Enthusiast Reasoned thinking

Argumentation is something i’m getting into with Platonic thinking

Hmm, you might try MacIntyre.

@Spider Sutra I would like to hear the arguement one of these days. Although Im gender abolitionists seems fun.