Message from @Eoppa

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2020-01-05 02:31:12 UTC  

That's interesting Maksim

2020-01-05 02:31:33 UTC  

It is important to show empathy for your enemy, but do not let him trample you.

2020-01-05 02:31:40 UTC  

@Deleted User You are misinterpreting the meaning of the word love

2020-01-05 02:31:50 UTC  

How so?

2020-01-05 02:31:54 UTC  

This seems to jive with the traditional view that Christianity was the synthesis of Greek natural law philosophy and Hebrew faith

2020-01-05 02:32:35 UTC  

An example of correct love would be having a homosexual, and you care for him, so you give them therapy and try to convert them, peacefully

An incorrect example of love would be "homosexuals are a okay i love all of you yaaaaay"

2020-01-05 02:32:37 UTC  

In a sense, Stoic law?

2020-01-05 02:32:38 UTC  

Love doesn't mean peace or something, it means willing the good of others. If your enemy is trying to kill your people, you massacre them out of love.

2020-01-05 02:33:12 UTC  

If you can stop them without killing them, always do so

2020-01-05 02:34:09 UTC  

So love is more of a will to defend and uphold?

2020-01-05 02:34:59 UTC  

It's a will for the good

2020-01-05 02:35:15 UTC  

What is hate then?

2020-01-05 02:35:24 UTC  

Is it to hate that which destroys good?

2020-01-05 02:36:19 UTC  

Well hate I suppose is willing evil if we are using this conception.

2020-01-05 02:36:32 UTC  

I've never given much thought about that side of it

2020-01-05 02:36:48 UTC  

That is what i've been concerning myself in lately.

2020-01-05 02:36:59 UTC  

The Idea of what defines hate.

2020-01-05 02:37:59 UTC  

Because i don't think hate is necessarily something that wills evil, as many men do believe. I think hate is more of a concept that wants to destroy a certain thing, whether it be good or evil is a different struggle.

2020-01-05 02:38:37 UTC  

Well I'm talking about the traditional concepts

2020-01-05 02:38:55 UTC  

The words have shifted to mean more anger and calm

2020-01-05 02:39:05 UTC  

As you seem to think of them

2020-01-05 02:39:22 UTC  

In this i don't believe hate is at all bad.

2020-01-05 02:39:24 UTC  

Which is fine, but don't project them onto theology or the bible

2020-01-05 02:40:04 UTC  

Understandably so, but as a personal philosophy i believe hate is simply a will to destruct at something.

2020-01-05 02:41:13 UTC  

Intertwined with my Religious beliefs however it makes sense that the Lord would want us to hate certain things. Hate that which destroys all things good.

2020-01-05 02:41:53 UTC  

Because to say that we cannot hate is foolish, as it is part of our nature as men.

2020-01-05 02:43:13 UTC  

Well you just projected your own definition on theology again

2020-01-05 02:43:21 UTC  

No one says you can't be angry

2020-01-05 02:43:26 UTC  

In fact we aren't angry enough

2020-01-05 02:43:41 UTC  

I do not like the idea of being angry.

2020-01-05 02:44:02 UTC  

It makes men act irrationally

2020-01-05 02:44:09 UTC  

It's called righteous indignation

2020-01-05 02:44:49 UTC  

To be angry is to lose all focus, but to be hateful is to hold spite for one thing and wish to cease it.

2020-01-05 02:45:06 UTC  

I just realised trump openly admitted to planning warcrimes which is kind of based ig

2020-01-05 02:45:21 UTC  

I can understand where you may come from saying that Anger can make men do the righteous.

2020-01-05 02:48:54 UTC  

I'm not saying your definition is wrong, that's non sensical. I'm saying what you are referring to would be a form of love.

2020-01-05 02:49:06 UTC  

Under the traditional theological terms

2020-01-05 02:49:16 UTC  

So love in itself is a part of hate?

2020-01-05 02:49:31 UTC  

No

2020-01-05 02:49:51 UTC  

Just throw your invented terms out of your head

2020-01-05 02:53:03 UTC  

@Eoppa One of us, someday, will accidentally excommunicate ourselves from our respective Church.