Message from @Maksim

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2020-01-07 07:29:27 UTC  

There's no need to kill them, you can use non-harmful means to get rid of them, such as repellents.

2020-01-07 07:29:38 UTC  

Why? Only for them to return later?

2020-01-07 07:29:51 UTC  

Or to go to another house?

2020-01-07 07:30:10 UTC  

Kill them now and they will never be an issue again

2020-01-07 07:30:13 UTC  

No, if you are willing to take extra steps, that won't happen and they won't be harmed. I've done it myself recently. No infestation, none were killed or harmed. It's about the sanctity of life in general.

2020-01-07 07:30:37 UTC  

I firmly believe humans have suptemw dominion over nature

2020-01-07 07:30:57 UTC  

I disagree, but if that is an axiomatic premise to you then it's difficult to discuss it because we're polar opposites.

2020-01-07 07:31:10 UTC  

Are you Christian?

2020-01-07 07:31:13 UTC  

Yes

2020-01-07 07:31:19 UTC  

I mean we are the incumbent, dominant species.

2020-01-07 07:31:25 UTC  

Anthropocentrism.

2020-01-07 07:31:49 UTC  

And if we ever meet extra terrestrials, would they then be justified in wiping us out? Do our lives mean nothing then? Because we are not dominant anymore?

2020-01-07 07:32:11 UTC  

Genesis 9:2

2020-01-07 07:32:12 UTC  

2020-01-07 07:32:17 UTC  

I don't think extraterrestrials are at all how they would appear in popular media, I feel as though they would look similar to us.

2020-01-07 07:32:32 UTC  

It's all conjecture but it's a thought experiment worth pondering.

2020-01-07 07:32:33 UTC  

Literally says animals do and should fear us

2020-01-07 07:32:50 UTC  

Yes, that essentially bestows responsibility to humans.

2020-01-07 07:32:53 UTC  

We have power over them

2020-01-07 07:33:00 UTC  

@Deleted User I don't disagree

2020-01-07 07:33:14 UTC  

But if a termite is in my house im killing it

2020-01-07 07:33:18 UTC  

Right, but it doesn't say so let's be complete dicks to them. We have power over children, dominion over them. But we should look after them and help them prosper, not harm them. Same with Animals

2020-01-07 07:33:31 UTC  

No not the same

2020-01-07 07:33:49 UTC  

Children are spiritually equal, arguably superior to adults

2020-01-07 07:33:58 UTC  

Because they are innocent, such as Animals. Without sin.

2020-01-07 07:33:58 UTC  

Humans as a whole are spiritually above animals

2020-01-07 07:34:13 UTC  

I disagree. There's no reason to think that. If anything it's the opposite.

2020-01-07 07:34:14 UTC  

Animals have no soul

2020-01-07 07:34:19 UTC  

We are malicious and cruel as a species.

2020-01-07 07:34:24 UTC  

We do violence without need.

2020-01-07 07:34:28 UTC  

Animals do so with need and necessity.

2020-01-07 07:34:34 UTC  

And prove to me you have a soul and then say that.

2020-01-07 07:34:44 UTC  

When you can prove to me unequivocally you have a soul but an Animal doesn't I'll agree with you.

2020-01-07 07:34:46 UTC  

I have a soul because I am Human

2020-01-07 07:34:52 UTC  

That is circular reasoning.

2020-01-07 07:34:57 UTC  

No

2020-01-07 07:35:01 UTC  

It is the definition of it.

2020-01-07 07:35:02 UTC  

The Bible says this

2020-01-07 07:35:21 UTC  

The Bible says a lot of things. Does it say Animals have no soul?

2020-01-07 07:35:28 UTC  

Pretty sure it does not.

2020-01-07 07:35:29 UTC  

Animal do have soul. But people have to understand that every animal needs to care about his race first. That's how to world works