Message from @What Would Jack Conte Do?

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2019-12-01 21:55:57 UTC  

You don't think that the combined collective of people living in North America have an incentive to band together and hold off invaders, while also realizing it's in their best interest to cooperate through voluntary negotiations?

2019-12-01 21:56:12 UTC  

`You don't think that the combined collective of people living in North America have an incentive to band together and hold off invaders, `
they do, and it's called "the army"

2019-12-01 21:56:19 UTC  

depends on how many are strangers to each other @Fitzydog

2019-12-01 21:56:19 UTC  

Lmao

2019-12-01 21:56:37 UTC  

this isn't some revolutionary idea either

2019-12-01 21:56:42 UTC  

your saying people coudl spontaneously form a defense initiative in their own neighbourhood

2019-12-01 21:56:45 UTC  

it's literally what people have done since being in tribes

2019-12-01 21:56:47 UTC  

and it would work every time

2019-12-01 21:56:49 UTC  

i dunno

2019-12-01 21:57:05 UTC  

I'm done talking to low IQ race baiting faggo-- I mean fascists. Same thing whatever

2019-12-01 21:57:20 UTC  

Still a bundle of sticks

2019-12-01 21:57:25 UTC  

hahahahaha

2019-12-01 21:57:34 UTC  

ok nonmaterialist ancap

2019-12-01 21:57:44 UTC  

Most ancaps are you tard

2019-12-01 21:58:01 UTC  

fitzy, do you believe in the dialectic theory

2019-12-01 21:58:08 UTC  

No fuck off commie

2019-12-01 21:58:10 UTC  

the idea that things are contradictory

2019-12-01 21:58:17 UTC  

but that they balance out eventually

2019-12-01 21:58:23 UTC  

No

2019-12-01 21:58:28 UTC  

iirc, it existed before communism

2019-12-01 21:58:32 UTC  

before 19th century iirc

2019-12-01 21:59:12 UTC  

I believe that contradictions come from human ideas, and ideas are attached to groups.

One of those groups will win in the end.

2019-12-01 21:59:26 UTC  

And ideas are heirarchical

2019-12-01 22:00:00 UTC  

well the hierarchy that wins is the balance of the two, even if it takes hundreds of years - it's not really communist, because communism is just another idea forcing people to live a certain way

2019-12-01 22:00:05 UTC  

`the idea that things are contradictory
but that they balance out eventually`
this is the hegelian kind, the term existed before and is more general

2019-12-01 22:00:18 UTC  

No, balance is a spook created by liberals in order to get their way

2019-12-01 22:00:33 UTC  

i think hegel redefined the term for his own kinda dumb definition

2019-12-01 22:00:38 UTC  

"the slow March" is this in action

2019-12-01 22:00:45 UTC  

liberals? you mean conservatives?

2019-12-01 22:00:51 UTC  

"oh let's just compromise"

2019-12-01 22:00:57 UTC  

conservatism is by its very nature, the slow march

2019-12-01 22:01:04 UTC  

Compromising is abandoning your ideals

2019-12-01 22:01:21 UTC  

"progress only if necessary, but slowly" turns out, mass politics makes that always necessary

2019-12-01 22:01:26 UTC  

so it ends up meaning 'slow change'

2019-12-01 22:01:36 UTC  

rather than 'avoid change'

2019-12-01 22:01:37 UTC  

Oh, neoconservativism

2019-12-01 22:01:45 UTC  

Nah fuck those guys

2019-12-01 22:01:54 UTC  

Progress is gay and unnecessary

2019-12-01 22:01:58 UTC  

neocons are more wilsonian