And the Islamists are better than that?

yeah

The people were far far better off during Shah

how

They study abroad and come back to Iran to work because they'd be making more money.
The people were a lot wealthier. They were actually advancing forward thanks to the liberals at the time.

Iran was highly respected, the relationship with the West, the arabs and the jews was at a very point.

Women actually had rights and werent treated as lesser citizens.

Islam hadn't fully taken over

yeah they had a relationship with the west because they were a literal US puppet lmfao

the shah was installed by the west

Now I'm not saying the US and especially the British did nothing wrong. Same with the Shah himself but saying Iran is better off now than during the King is just insanely stupid.

Puppet is a strong word, he was backed by the west but he was not their puppet. Overtime if the Islamic revolution didnt happen the liberals would slowly gain power and Shah would lose his.

Liberalism was to be the outcome. Except the Islamist nutjobs took over and Iran is the joke that it is now.

thats not a very good outcome lmfao

and if the shah was never overthrown iran wouldnt have the same foreign policy that they do now

remember that they were a US puppet, they wouldn't be the way they are right now

the US and its allies would essentially control the middle east

Liberalism is not a good outcome? A real parliament with elected officials is worse than an Islamic totalitarian regime? Okay retard.

I would want western influence throughout the entire world.

Countries with western values.

like israel?

Israel is illegitimate ethnat

How exactly is Iran like Israel?

no i said "like israel" in response to "western values"

iran isnt like israel, thats the thing lmfao

When did I say Iran is like Israel <:thronk:441701565607444482>

i didnt say you did

you said "Countries with western values."

i then asked "like israel?"

or are you saying iran has western values

TLDR: The people under shah, were educated, highly wealthy, had A LOT more freedoms. Iran overtime would turn into a legitimate Israel, an actual trustworthy ally of US and the west in general.

The current islamist regime is tyrannical and enslaves the population. They slaughter protestors. Most people right now can't afford to buy meat.

Under no circumstances you can say Islamist Iran is better than Iran during Shah.

Yes Iran has western values

no it doesnt lol

western values, at least in their current form are stupid, they include irreligiosity and capitalism

Look at Iran pictures during Shah

hahaha

So you're a dirty communist

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im not a communist lol

im a catholic

communists are banned

you can still be ome

*one

no, all communists are automatically excommunicated in the catholic church lol