Message from @Son of Rome

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2020-01-20 00:51:56 UTC  

Capitalism does not lift others from poverty

2020-01-20 00:51:59 UTC  

and that is utterly laughable

2020-01-20 00:52:13 UTC  

I was hoping you would make even one argument about moral or actual positions

2020-01-20 00:52:15 UTC  

but even on this point

2020-01-20 00:52:17 UTC  

I have however seen the figures for how many have starved, either intentionally or accidentally, under them, or the large numbers sent to reeducation camps that are often never released and just disappear.

2020-01-20 00:52:18 UTC  

This is pretty simple

2020-01-20 00:52:36 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/668618853059788800/Extreme-Poverty-projection-by-the-World-Bank-to-2030-786x550.png

2020-01-20 00:52:42 UTC  

I'm not even a communist but here we go

2020-01-20 00:52:55 UTC  

What caused this? Communism?

2020-01-20 00:53:01 UTC  

so first of all on the poverty point, the world poverty line is decreased every few years or lesls

2020-01-20 00:53:02 UTC  

*less

2020-01-20 00:53:05 UTC  

you can go ahead and look it up

2020-01-20 00:53:24 UTC  

they literally change the poverty line slightly lower by a few cents creating the illusion of more out of poverty

2020-01-20 00:53:48 UTC  

So your arguement is that poverty rates haven't been changing.

2020-01-20 00:53:52 UTC  

They didn't change it here. They literally defined it in the graph as less than 1.90$ a day

2020-01-20 00:54:12 UTC  

Lets go delve into this source then

2020-01-20 00:54:17 UTC  

WE WAS EXTREMELY IMPOVRISHED N SHIET

2020-01-20 00:54:19 UTC  

also even STILL

2020-01-20 00:54:30 UTC  

Capitalism enforces a permanent amount to be in poverty

2020-01-20 00:54:34 UTC  

I mean fuck. I guess South Korea is still a shithole huh?

2020-01-20 00:54:43 UTC  
2020-01-20 00:54:49 UTC  

no point in history has a capitalist state had a unemployment rate below 1%

2020-01-20 00:55:00 UTC  

without the economy soon collapsing

2020-01-20 00:55:01 UTC  

Fascism best ism

2020-01-20 00:55:04 UTC  

^

2020-01-20 00:55:17 UTC  

Yeah ofc, but there are plenty of people who aren't in extreme poverty that are unemployed

2020-01-20 00:55:24 UTC  

(about unemployment)

2020-01-20 00:55:49 UTC  

Also

2020-01-20 00:55:50 UTC  

5k you lied

2020-01-20 00:55:54 UTC  

they in the source itself

2020-01-20 00:55:58 UTC  

No communist economy has lasted long before completely collapsing, or adopting some measure of a free market, either.

2020-01-20 00:56:00 UTC  

And having full employment breeds stagnation as no new startups can be created

2020-01-20 00:56:01 UTC  

say the international poverty line was revised

2020-01-20 00:56:36 UTC  

Octanus

2020-01-20 00:56:40 UTC  

what Communist society was allowed to flourish?

2020-01-20 00:56:46 UTC  

Because the USSR was popularly supported

2020-01-20 00:56:51 UTC  

there was literally a referendum in 1991

2020-01-20 00:56:56 UTC  

a few months before its dissolution

2020-01-20 00:56:58 UTC  

What society was "allowed" to fluorish?

2020-01-20 00:57:02 UTC  

over 70% of the population supported it

2020-01-20 00:57:13 UTC  

The USA isn't embargoed by over half of the world