Besides, Rey is by all definitions a mary sue because it has been explicitly said that she wasn't written with the intention of being a good character but to be a role model (power fantasy) to young girls.

A Vader Wars movie would've been cool

Or a Luke's wife movie

@Questgiver you could say Luke is a bit Gary stuish, but Luke at least had flaws he needed to overcome. Rey has literally no weaknesses.

Vader vacuum

A Darth Nihilus movie would've been bitchin too

@Gridley she is constantly held back by her own hangups about waiting for her parents

And Luke was like CYA BEN

NEXT

Have I told you the tragedy of Darth Plageus the Wise?

That's not a weakness. Thats just being indecisive. Its not interesting and its not good writing.

indecisiveness is a weakness

I liked her mentor

The black dude in power armor

i wouldbt say im indecisive on a cv

But they killed him the second he came on screen

Rotten tomatoes says it all

They also killed off the silver girl storm trooper

Which both could've been neat

But no

pantasma?

Yeah

She was just bubba fett again anyway

Nah they could've made her cool and original but she ended up being nothing but Cannon fodder

Yep

Just like fett

im not saying rey is a great character, im saying its stupid to say rey is a mary sue without also saying luke and anakin are

i dont understand how finn ended up as a stormtrooper, i thought they were all clones of boba

Incorrect

She is though

No they explain that the empire moved away from clones

That part I'm fine with

must have missed that bit lol

And you're thinking of the clones.

play the og battlefront 2 @THCVee

nah

Yeah they mention something about how "Maybe the empire should go back to a clone army"

@THCVee The clone system was disbanded after the empire was instated

Clones are expensive. Kidnapped Slave army is cheap

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ahh fairs