some were good dont get me wrong but there are people that ruin games with good potential

no its just how the world works. either you can afford or convince a company/investor to back you or you dont put out a product.

i ment to the people that dont work on their games and keep it early access for a long while

Thank you Ayn Rand jr

its the old way the world worked

i think as long as people are aware what they are buying its all good, let the market decide

well hows it working for you now? buggy ass early releases that stay ea for a long time

if thats what we had today there would be nothing but fps games

Its the way it used to work. Early Access is just another form of crowd sourcing. Welcome to the 21st century.

cause companies wouldnt take risks

so fuck that crap

meh then dont complain about aaa publishers following suit to make marketing and shareholders happy

how is that even an argument

cause i made it one

lol

and?

haha

I wish I could sleep

early access isnt as bad as pre-ordering games that later turn out to be worse than expected

i mean you dont have to agree with me

like your points are idiotic

to you maybe

again ruger you arent the end all of things

im a professional game developer... your a drug dealer

so my opinion is invalid as a consumer

gg

I mean, have you seen the state of WoW?

its easy to shrug me off since i used to sell narcotics?

no, its about how games are made and funded

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in this case the customers *are* the backers lol. they convince customers to fund them via early access

Someone in the game industry would have a better understanding

ruger early access is useful like you said but some developers ruin it for the consumers when they just stop working on the game and keep it early access for a ridiculous long time

instead of investors

thats why i prefer finished games

yah and stay in beta for an eternity which AAA noticed

and realized they can just fix as they go

yes, but you are told that the game is early access

right

you go into it *knowing* the game isn't finished

and might not be finished

Is viscera clean up still in early access?