Message from @jm
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kek indeed
GOD WILLS IT
SHADILAY
Layishad
good and evil are subjective abstracts constructed at the dawn of consciousness, and will never be capable of inherent objectiveness in the future due to the creation of morality and what has been "decided" by man to be right and wrong
that is incorrect
That's why I purposefully said God and evil. That means if it is not God nor one with God it is evil.
you cannot prove "God" is not an idea created by man, nor can you deny it
your correct
belief in religion is through faith
however morality isnt
That is true. But, I have my other thoughts on religion compared to the average.
A society should have social norms, these norms are typically enforced by some amount of social oppression, for example the reason a brother and sister don't get married is everyone will look at them like their odd, which by all standards of normality they are. In my humble opinion the basis for these norms should be what is best for society, not some relativistic nonsense, for example I see obesity, addiction, homosexuality, pedophilia, pornography, lack of self sufficiency, and incest as degenerate, causes of problems.
Now, I will not say for one second I am a perfect man without any degeneracy however, at least I own my vices and accept the oppression that I deserve, unlike the people who say I'm a pedophile not a monster (I'm not a pedophile, this is an example).
The PC culture that I indulge in I won't say is better however, I will say it is fundamentally different, I do not care if someone gets their feeling hurts if it is for the greater good and the maintenance of that good.
belief is trusting another person's word, and nothing else
morality can be objective
M
no bite size chews for u
For all we know we are hallucinating this world and no one we talk to or are around is actually there.
morality can be objective
prove it
in what is good for society
subjective
We can't disproven it either
killing a man creates fear in the community
fear is subjective
stealing from a man creates fear
it creates distrust
not fear
i mispoke
trust is subjective
everything about life is subjective
the argument that something is subjective is ludicrous
therefor morality is incapable of being objective
We each have a set of morals and values we chose to accept and live by. Some are accepted by most. Others by a select few.
yet people make moral arguments
This world may be real it may not be
mfw, also on LSD