Message from @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

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2018-11-21 22:25:20 UTC  

Most common

2018-11-21 22:25:31 UTC  

But doesn’t mean we can’t stop illegal crossings

2018-11-21 22:25:33 UTC  

That’s a big source

2018-11-21 22:25:41 UTC  

@wahx yeah e verify and other measures to tackle it

2018-11-21 22:25:46 UTC  

All illegal immigration is bad

2018-11-21 22:25:51 UTC  

Eh, it's one of the smaller sources by my understanding

2018-11-21 22:25:55 UTC  

well, good for the economy

2018-11-21 22:26:07 UTC  

bad for some minimum wage workers doing manual labor

2018-11-21 22:26:16 UTC  

which I don't like, don't get me wrong

2018-11-21 22:26:25 UTC  

Not really lol

2018-11-21 22:26:27 UTC  

You pull down wages

2018-11-21 22:26:35 UTC  

The money they make goes to mexico

2018-11-21 22:26:42 UTC  

you cause unemployment with citizens

2018-11-21 22:26:47 UTC  

As they work below minimum wage

2018-11-21 22:26:51 UTC  

they leech of welfare

2018-11-21 22:26:52 UTC  

not really dude, read up on what illegal immigration does for the economy, it's mostly positive

2018-11-21 22:26:55 UTC  

They get free healthcare

2018-11-21 22:26:58 UTC  

But it’s not

2018-11-21 22:27:04 UTC  

All they do is add increased labour

2018-11-21 22:27:06 UTC  

actually they feed into welfare more than they take out

2018-11-21 22:27:07 UTC  

Which pulls down wages

2018-11-21 22:27:18 UTC  

not really , many of them stay on welfare

2018-11-21 22:27:25 UTC  

And have other benefits

2018-11-21 22:27:40 UTC  

yeah but many more feed into social security + medicare without getting anything out

2018-11-21 22:28:22 UTC  

"Professor of Law Francine Lipman writes that the belief that illegal migrants are exploiting the US economy and that they cost more in services than they contribute to the economy is "undeniably false".[37] Lipman asserts that "illegal immigrants actually contribute more to public coffers in taxes than they cost in social services" and "contribute to the U.S. economy through their investments and consumption of goods and services; filling of millions of essential worker positions resulting in subsidiary job creation, increased productivity and lower costs of goods and services; and unrequited contributions to Social Security, Medicare and unemployment insurance programs.""

2018-11-21 22:28:50 UTC  

" Immigrants, legal and illegal, are more likely to pay taxes than they are to use public services. Illegal immigrants are not eligible for most public services and live in fear of revealing themselves to government authorities."

2018-11-21 22:29:20 UTC  

“Filling millions of jobs”

2018-11-21 22:29:25 UTC  

Yeah by being payed under min wage

2018-11-21 22:29:26 UTC  

Lol so the heritage foundation study is just below what I referenced, and it gets lombasted in the wikipedia article

2018-11-21 22:29:35 UTC  

"Nowrasteh wrote that the Heritage report's refusal to account for GDP growth and increased economic productivity from immigration led to "a massive underestimation of the economic benefits of immigration and diminishing estimated tax revenue.""

2018-11-21 22:29:42 UTC  

And making American citizens lose their jobs

2018-11-21 22:29:45 UTC  

And pull wages down

2018-11-21 22:29:51 UTC  

America for Americans.

2018-11-21 22:29:52 UTC  

nah, you're just wrong about this

2018-11-21 22:29:54 UTC  

GDP growth is the only thing

2018-11-21 22:29:55 UTC  

lol

2018-11-21 22:29:59 UTC  

That’s due to increased labour

2018-11-21 22:30:06 UTC  

Wait.

2018-11-21 22:30:10 UTC  

But the same increased labour causes wages to be pulled down