Message from @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

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2018-12-08 20:48:47 UTC  

Simple as that

2018-12-08 20:49:32 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441728840025374731/521065820110061585/Screen_Shot_2018-12-08_at_20.49.23.png

2018-12-08 20:49:34 UTC  

Mises wiki

2018-12-08 20:49:52 UTC  

So yeah..

2018-12-08 20:50:48 UTC  

Nothing in that definition does it mention state intervention

2018-12-08 20:50:59 UTC  

correct

2018-12-08 20:51:05 UTC  

which is why capitalism is the free market

2018-12-08 20:51:06 UTC  

my point

2018-12-08 20:51:45 UTC  

It doesn't say in there that capitalism can't have state intervention

2018-12-08 20:51:50 UTC  

yes it does

2018-12-08 20:51:51 UTC  

read it

2018-12-08 20:51:58 UTC  

Read it

2018-12-08 20:52:05 UTC  

You interpret it wrong

2018-12-08 20:52:16 UTC  

Capitalism is an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by **competition in a free market**.

2018-12-08 20:52:29 UTC  

That's America

2018-12-08 20:52:29 UTC  

eh, i think this is too far either side

2018-12-08 20:52:38 UTC  

in every capitalist country ever we have some regulations

2018-12-08 20:52:47 UTC  

unless we have anarcho-capitalism there is always some regulations or whatever

2018-12-08 20:52:49 UTC  

no

2018-12-08 20:52:52 UTC  

as there is no free market

2018-12-08 20:52:58 UTC  

@UNITE THE RIGHT there is no capitalist country

2018-12-08 20:52:58 UTC  

It is free

2018-12-08 20:53:01 UTC  

No it is not

2018-12-08 20:53:05 UTC  

as there is state intervention

2018-12-08 20:53:08 UTC  

so there are no capitalist countries?

2018-12-08 20:53:10 UTC  

^

2018-12-08 20:53:16 UTC  

I'm not calling for free market completely

2018-12-08 20:53:18 UTC  

not even singapore or hwatever

2018-12-08 20:53:19 UTC  

just as free as possible

2018-12-08 20:53:22 UTC  

So what makes Mises's definition the true one?

2018-12-08 20:53:26 UTC  

They are close to free market

2018-12-08 20:53:33 UTC  

we have to be real here a perfect market doesnt exist

2018-12-08 20:53:35 UTC  

but they aren't truly Capitalist

2018-12-08 20:53:37 UTC  

yes of course

2018-12-08 20:53:39 UTC  

perfect anything doesnt exist

2018-12-08 20:53:40 UTC  

there is no free market

2018-12-08 20:53:42 UTC  
2018-12-08 20:53:53 UTC  

I'm advocating for a closest to free market

2018-12-08 20:53:55 UTC  

we can be free market even if its imperfect,

2018-12-08 20:54:01 UTC  

as for debates I'll refer to the freest economies as capitalist

2018-12-08 20:54:04 UTC  

Property is actually not a thing, only a concept