Message from @bandit

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2018-10-26 19:26:27 UTC  

But I am familiar with his kind, so I will make a general statement.

2018-10-26 19:26:38 UTC  

What is his kind?

2018-10-26 19:26:45 UTC  

Jared Taylor is a hereditarian i.e. he believes the black/white IQ gap is heritable.

2018-10-26 19:27:03 UTC  

Heritability basically means measured variation between individuals is a % result of genetic differences

2018-10-26 19:27:09 UTC  

we can determine this between individuals with twin studies

2018-10-26 19:27:18 UTC  

How it basically works is you get a group of fraternal and identical twins

2018-10-26 19:27:25 UTC  

If the identical twins are more similar in let's say height

2018-10-26 19:27:32 UTC  

you measure their height to be on average more similar

2018-10-26 19:27:53 UTC  

You know that even though both groups have the same "shared environment" at home, the identical twins ended up more similar as a result of greater genetic similarity

2018-10-26 19:28:00 UTC  

We assume that its' a 50% increase in genetic similarity

2018-10-26 19:28:06 UTC  

comparing identical to fraternal

2018-10-26 19:28:23 UTC  

And if you see a 40% increase in correlation of scores i.e. greater similarity that would roughly work out to a .9 heritability coefficient

2018-10-26 19:28:34 UTC  

or 90% of differences in height between individuals are a result of genetic differences

2018-10-26 19:28:41 UTC  

so what even is the argument here?

2018-10-26 19:28:51 UTC  

Is Jarod Taylor a white supremacist

2018-10-26 19:28:57 UTC  

I think

2018-10-26 19:28:59 UTC  

i dont know whom that is

2018-10-26 19:29:00 UTC  

So Jared Taylor is a "white supremacist" for believing that the black/white IQ gap is heritable

2018-10-26 19:29:01 UTC  

I do think that if you constantly atribute positive characteristics to white people (like high IQ) and then attribute negative characteristics to africans (being agresive) and then say that the cause that white people have all this positive attributes, and africans these negative atributes, is race. that yes, you then are implying that white people are superior to at least african.

2018-10-26 19:29:05 UTC  

Sometimes it helps to listen

2018-10-26 19:29:07 UTC  

And I would call you a white supremacist

2018-10-26 19:29:10 UTC  

ohhhh

2018-10-26 19:29:12 UTC  

lmao

2018-10-26 19:29:28 UTC  

yeah in that case i would say that he is racist, but not a white supremacist

2018-10-26 19:29:28 UTC  

Would you say genetic differences are responsible for height differences between East Asians and whites? Even in Japan, Korea, or in East Asians in Western countries, a height difference remains. Even though they're generally wealthier than native whites. Most reasonable people would concede that racial gap in height is heritable

2018-10-26 19:29:43 UTC  

Just like height, IQ is a highly heritable trait

2018-10-26 19:29:53 UTC  

@bandit Do you deny racial differences?

2018-10-26 19:29:53 UTC  

Just like height, IQ is a highly polygenic trait

2018-10-26 19:30:04 UTC  

I mean, depends on how you mean deny.

2018-10-26 19:30:06 UTC  

I don't know why we would assume 0% heritability in racial gaps in intelligence when height is a highly heritable trait

2018-10-26 19:30:08 UTC  

Why do races being different mean they are inherently inferior or superior?

2018-10-26 19:30:17 UTC  

Let's slow down

2018-10-26 19:30:26 UTC  

And let me answer your first question

2018-10-26 19:30:32 UTC  

yes, like how chimps and humans have different iq's, but with humans i believe it is the quality of education, which tends to lack in black communities

2018-10-26 19:30:32 UTC  

alright

2018-10-26 19:30:38 UTC  

Rather than calling people who do these studies and find these differences racist, I'd be more inclined to have them press further to find out why those differences exist. o.o

2018-10-26 19:30:51 UTC  

^

2018-10-26 19:30:57 UTC  

I don't deny that there are average differences in certain qualities between races no

2018-10-26 19:31:23 UTC  

I mean it could be flaws in the studies. Flaws created by racial bias. Or it could be something else entirely.

2018-10-26 19:31:47 UTC  

i believe that there is a reason for this difference. Like how in most areas blacks have lower quality of education, where as most white communities have good schools

2018-10-26 19:32:26 UTC  

For your second claim