Message from @Trapper

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2018-10-29 08:51:56 UTC  

@Arkaboo Socialism would come back, it's inevitable, whether the bourgeois capitalists engage in class warfare against the working class or not. It's the natural progression of society according to historical materialism, as noted by Marx. The "human nature" argument towards socialism is flawed and has been debunked time and time again. Your conflating "human nature" with "human behaviour" under varying circumstances. Our behaviour is influenced by the values and customs society propagates and forces us to believe in. We aren't born as racists nor bigots, the capitalist jungle conditions our mind into competitive and vicious ways of thinking and acting. However, if we condition our minds and live in a society where we act with rationality and think for the greater good, there is no reason not to do so.

What your describing is primitive communism/socialism. Productivity would increase greatly under socialism even at capitalism's game point, socialism isn't a system built on the few who work. Socialism isn't egalitarian in any way. Resources are at the expense of the public and the people as a whole, not the capitalists or anyone else.

2018-10-29 08:58:42 UTC  

Socialism can never be established in one or two nations. Socialism is a global system just like capitalism. When workers all around the world are educated about socialism, the power which drives the bourgeois, at its very baseline, would cease to exist. The entire system is driven by extracting surplus value from the workers and making profits by selling commodities, not by making it to supplement the needs of the populace.

2018-10-29 08:59:48 UTC  
2018-10-29 10:17:23 UTC  

Gab is banned from Medium after the website goes dark. Gab has their response to the Tree of Life shooting there. I’ve provided the archive to the article the media and Big Tech don’t want you to see.
http://archive.today/vysbL

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/418667927169138688/506411220233093120/image0.png

2018-10-29 10:35:59 UTC  

all perpetrated by bourgeois corporations

2018-10-29 10:48:11 UTC  

You’re not wrong

2018-10-29 11:01:59 UTC  

that's why we have to get rid of this system

@Leiro レイロ you're talking about capitalism?

hmm

no

it's great the way it is

communism and socialism will just bring ruin to the nation

2018-10-29 14:50:18 UTC  

Gab has added to their original statement. The one you get when you go to the website. Read it here https://gab.ai/Sunless_Sentinel Or read the pic provided.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/418667927169138688/506479902510546964/image0.png

2018-10-29 14:59:24 UTC  

@𝕡𝕦𝕘𝕤𝕪 𝕥𝕙𝕖 ducc socialism certainly didn't being ruin to the Soviet Union

2018-10-29 15:00:07 UTC  

just look at the literacy rates, innovation, the mass exodus of scientists, physicians and mathematicians the SU produced and more.

2018-10-29 15:00:59 UTC  

socialism is a transition from capitalism, regardless whether the bourgeois capitalists engage in class warfare against the working class, it would still be established, the question is when

2018-10-29 15:08:57 UTC  

Mass exodus of scientists and innovation XD

2018-10-29 15:09:37 UTC  

The aerospace industry during the Soviet union was awful

2018-10-29 15:11:47 UTC  

Brain drain the best minds from Poland, Ukraine and the other Soviet controlled countries

2018-10-29 15:14:31 UTC  

The SU did the best with the limited resources and intellect it had and often resorted to stealing blueprints or reverse engineering captured planes. TU4, Tu144, Buran, Harrier

2018-10-29 15:22:33 UTC  

Rampant poverty, starvation,lack of free speech, limited food selection. Ask any old timer how great the SU was

2018-10-29 15:27:10 UTC  

Just got this email from the Republicans of Texas, pretty weird glitch, huh?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/418667927169138688/506489180545744907/Screenshot_2018-10-29-10-24-34.png

2018-10-29 15:49:53 UTC  

@Trapper brain drains only appeared after the USSR collapsed

2018-10-29 15:50:15 UTC  

starvation only happened under Stalin

2018-10-29 15:50:25 UTC  

and bread lines only came in after khruschev

2018-10-29 15:51:02 UTC  

obviously a nation at the front lines of two world wars and a civil war would be devastated

2018-10-29 15:51:36 UTC  

the SU brought down the nazis, and payed for it with 10 million lives and the entire west of their country almost destroyed

2018-10-29 15:51:48 UTC  

while the USA only lost 400000 men

2018-10-29 15:52:01 UTC  

i mean, look at socialist science

2018-10-29 15:58:34 UTC  

@Trapper ask old timer how great the Union was? mate, most actually want the Union back lol

2018-10-29 15:59:28 UTC  

quite the industry was very awful, even with the USA capturing German scientists the USSR launched the first satellite into space

2018-10-29 15:59:41 UTC  

barely 40 years after the Russia revolution

2018-10-29 16:00:08 UTC  

from a agrarian nation to 99% literacy rate and the second greatest superpower

2018-10-29 16:54:40 UTC  

They want the Soviet union back because it was the only life they knew. The old people love Putin because he is an image of the old days and is also a symbol of stability

2018-10-29 17:00:08 UTC  

If the capitalist United States was so awful then why did the Soviet government censor movies and pictures from the U.S. ? People driving their own cars to grocery stores filled with a variety of food. People have a savings account where the bank doesn't steal your money if the economy goes to shit?

2018-10-29 18:36:46 UTC  

Alex Jones interview of Andrew Torba. Andrew has to cut it short after he finds out the media is at his moms house, harassing her and his brother.
https://youtu.be/CEXy4Serzao

@Leiro レイロ excuse me the soviet union was a fucking disaster at best

it was so poorly organized that fucking *famines* killed it's people

millions of them

the great stalinist purges killed almost as many

The KGB had at least 20 dissidents jailed/killed a day