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Civil wars all over the place
It would be better to simply encourage the native birthrate and keep the barbarians out.
We don't have any obligation to put ourselves in the victim position in a hostage situation
The relationship between the Goths and the Romans was all over the place. Romans solders profited of supplies the roman government sent to help the refugees, that caused the two german political groups to fight the romans
>political groups
Ethnic groups.
The Goths were a nomadic horde. The horde contained the entirety of their ethnic group.
Why not just keep them out?
It was bad for Rome
No retard, Tervingi and the Greuthungi where the two goth political groups.
It was bad for rome because mistreatment of refugees lead to war
Wikipedia literally defines those two as tribes
Not a political group
They didn't have Young Tervingi college clubs
Why is Rome obligated to suck up to foreign guests or be destroyed?
Rome is only obligated to her citizens.
Let them handle their own business.
Outside of our borders.
We are under zero obligation to put ourselves into a hostage situation to be nice to someone or be killed.
Of course they have no obligation. This is where we fundamentally disagree, I'm compassionate and pitty others. You're more of a libertarian (from what i can tell)
You don't take a dangerous homeless man into your house with your family.
"I'm so nice! I'm glad I'm putting my entire family in danger for that sweet sweet virtue dopamine"
When you invite foreigners into your country you are threatening the future of your own children.
And their children
You fear-monger, my family members are the foreigners you're to scared to show compassion to
What happened to the Romans?
What did showing compassion get them
And it is no surprise you have no concern for my group's future, invader.
They didn't see the Goths as bothers and sisters, thats exactly why they fell
They let the Goths in
That is why they fell.
It's like blaming a rape victim for resisting
You died because you fought back dummy
Just let the rape happen.
"Rome fell because it did not embrace the people sacking their cities with opem arms."
Hugs solve all conflict.
Mugger? Well I'm a *hugger*
Come here you, I can take the stabbings
are you autistic? That analogy is beyond stupid and it's clear that you have a deep presupposition when dealing with immigrants
Immigrants commit a ton of crime.