Message from @TheBestGangster

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2018-11-07 08:35:39 UTC  

what happens when your job gets offshored?

2018-11-07 08:36:13 UTC  

your employmwnt and education and housing is guaranteed under socialism

2018-11-07 08:36:26 UTC  

your depending on a ceo and a bureaucratix elite for your wage

2018-11-07 08:36:38 UTC  

and if they ignore you, your a piece of discarded human rubbish.

2018-11-07 08:37:22 UTC  

In a way, this sets up Trump for a MORE defensible position in 2020.

2018-11-07 08:37:40 UTC  

trump supports automation lol

2018-11-07 08:37:47 UTC  

your life depends on wage labour

2018-11-07 08:38:04 UTC  

and if its profitable to offshore jobs, what happens?

2018-11-07 08:38:19 UTC  

Well you have the free will and opportunity to choose whether, 1. Go with the flow, continue and put your trust in this offshore job and trust it will be the better of your family. 2. Or have the free will to choose whether you want a different job, from a different company, or really anything from there. Usually something in a similar field, and it's your choice. The fact of the matter is, socialism as you state would not work in our reality

2018-11-07 08:38:25 UTC  

you won't have that under socialism, because your employment is guaranteed

2018-11-07 08:38:26 UTC  

Thus resulting in it being only good, on paper

2018-11-07 08:38:45 UTC  

@TheBestGangster that trust is gone lol, you can't predict the labour market

2018-11-07 08:38:47 UTC  

oops. +++MY+++ life depends on automaton..

2018-11-07 08:38:58 UTC  

So basically, in socialism it boils down a lack of work and competition

2018-11-07 08:39:06 UTC  

so basically, you just ignored my entire argument about jobs being offshored

2018-11-07 08:39:13 UTC  

because its profitable to offshore them

2018-11-07 08:39:16 UTC  

your ignored

2018-11-07 08:39:18 UTC  

Don't even have to work to get a job, housing

2018-11-07 08:39:23 UTC  

All supplied to you

2018-11-07 08:39:29 UTC  

Competition? No such thing in socialism

2018-11-07 08:39:34 UTC  

What drives the market?

2018-11-07 08:39:39 UTC  

No damn clue

2018-11-07 08:39:39 UTC  

yes you do, under socialism if you don't work the state has no obligation to serve you.

2018-11-07 08:40:18 UTC  

"offshored"l "automated". Difference?

2018-11-07 08:40:24 UTC  

there would be no markets under socialism, there would be no need for competition as all these engineers and such workers would be employed to serve the state, which gives the state more resources to function

2018-11-07 08:40:38 UTC  

@Fere Nemo when did I say they were in any way had correlation?

2018-11-07 08:41:50 UTC  

@Leiro レイロ Actually when you get rid of competition it gets rid of a purpose to work harder. Like if you're running a race with nobody, what's the damn point. There is no motivation, thus resulting in a slowness of progress (and if this was capitalism, a tremendous lack of profit)

2018-11-07 08:42:31 UTC  

Which is what puts other people at a bigger advantage than you, but in socialism that cant happen because theres no competition to begin with

2018-11-07 08:42:49 UTC  

there would be lol, it would be like "why do I have to work 12 hours a day if I can work two?", under socialism innovation makes your labour expended more productive, and thus people will be working lesser than they used to

2018-11-07 08:42:54 UTC  

and this could be argued to be a stump, blocking point in technology

2018-11-07 08:42:57 UTC  

look at innovation in the USSR

2018-11-07 08:43:14 UTC  

and yes, capitalism will hit a plateau when it comes to innovation

2018-11-07 08:43:26 UTC  

there would bi no innovation if it isn't profit ale

2018-11-07 08:43:35 UTC  

Please read a book.

2018-11-07 08:44:36 UTC  

lol, mises is a freaking thinktank

2018-11-07 08:45:17 UTC  

@TheBestGangster so, the problem with the profit motive is that innovation will cease when it isn't profitable

2018-11-07 08:45:34 UTC  

LOL!

2018-11-07 08:46:52 UTC  

mises is like Ben shapiro put on paper

2018-11-07 08:47:59 UTC  

Now where you reach a point where innovation will cease when it's not profitable, yeah sure if the product sucks

2018-11-07 08:48:04 UTC  

"LOL" is a modern idiom for the mind numbed "emperor's new clothes" progressive dumbfuckery.