Message from @wahx

Discord ID: 524418311098728478


2018-12-18 02:45:22 UTC  

Why is the right freaking out about immigration

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/418667927169138688/524416860549152768/image0.png

2018-12-18 02:46:16 UTC  

this is a level of cancer that goes almost beyond absurdity

2018-12-18 02:47:03 UTC  

Lol uh oh

2018-12-18 02:47:18 UTC  

Genuinely curious though why it seems to be a big issue

2018-12-18 02:47:30 UTC  

one of you asks us, a conservative server, to help him make an anti-freedom argument

2018-12-18 02:48:17 UTC  

and then you come in here posting a naked graph like it's supposed to be a good conversation piece

2018-12-18 02:48:45 UTC  

or do you not think it matters where a statistical graphic comes from

2018-12-18 02:49:05 UTC  

or do you not even know yourself!?

2018-12-18 02:49:09 UTC  

Yikes lots of hostility. Is that your way of asking for the source? Very inefficient my friend

2018-12-18 02:49:17 UTC  

NPR

2018-12-18 02:49:22 UTC  

jesus

2018-12-18 02:49:50 UTC  

data interpretations are very far from absolute

2018-12-18 02:50:02 UTC  

Ok, but we can still interpret

2018-12-18 02:50:15 UTC  

That’s not an argument for no interpretarion

2018-12-18 02:50:16 UTC  

the same large set of data may be used to create several conflicting interpretations

2018-12-18 02:50:27 UTC  

Again, you aren’t saying what’s wrong with this data set

2018-12-18 02:50:43 UTC  

holy hell

2018-12-18 02:50:54 UTC  

I'm telling you it's not the data set that's wrong

2018-12-18 02:51:04 UTC  

Then...? It’s the graph? Lol

2018-12-18 02:51:08 UTC  

What’s the matter friend

2018-12-18 02:51:34 UTC  

border crossings are like any crime stat in that their data is always a shadow

2018-12-18 02:51:49 UTC  

you never have anywhere near full accountability of criminal activity

2018-12-18 02:52:22 UTC  

so a liberal outlet like NPR will use an interpretation of that incomplete data that is attractive to them and their audience

2018-12-18 02:52:25 UTC  

Sure. But unless there’s a reason that we’ve gotten worse and finding illegal immigrants, the trends are still somewhat indicative of the truth

2018-12-18 02:52:46 UTC  

and you should keep their graphics off this server

2018-12-18 02:52:55 UTC  

There is no interpretation in that graph. It’s just a graph. Can we talk about it rather than just dismissing the concept of statistics

2018-12-18 02:53:08 UTC  

Lol you guys can’t handle graphs? Oh Lordy

2018-12-18 02:53:13 UTC  

you aren't equipped to talk about this topic

2018-12-18 02:53:24 UTC  

For no reason other than your word? Sure.

2018-12-18 03:58:54 UTC  

Having 1 person cross the border illegally is bad

2018-12-18 03:59:22 UTC  

Also what I V L I V S says is correct

2018-12-18 03:59:35 UTC  

There’s also a problem as to what they count as “border crossing apprehension”

2018-12-18 04:00:58 UTC  

And you could look at it two ways: one they’re not doing there jobs, or finding some other way to evade law enforcement. Or two there are less illegals crossing

2018-12-18 04:04:56 UTC  
2018-12-18 05:14:19 UTC  

which do you think is more likely, that despite increased border security hirings they've become much less effective over time, that migrants have somehow learned how to evade capture despite, again, more border security agents, or that there are fewer crossing?

2018-12-18 05:14:28 UTC  

Are the immigrants getting sneakier? How? What on earth does that mean?

2018-12-18 05:15:42 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/418667927169138688/524454693741789194/unknown.png

2018-12-18 05:15:52 UTC  

seems to me that what we're doing at the border is effective

2018-12-18 05:17:00 UTC  

if the goal is to slow down immigrants. It's almost completely a non-issue at this point, so my original question is still why are conservatives so frothing at the mouth at border crossings?

2018-12-18 05:19:29 UTC  

I wonder if you noticed the limits of that chart you posted