Message from @hcaez

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2019-01-12 20:12:03 UTC  

but the firms are the market, if they cut their variable costs by colluding and all setting a similar low wage, why wouldnt they?

2019-01-12 20:12:25 UTC  

Firms =/= market

2019-01-12 20:12:27 UTC  

there's no government to stop them, only other firms who would lose profit by doing that

2019-01-12 20:12:31 UTC  

by the market i mean market forces

2019-01-12 20:12:43 UTC  

Because the market would reallocate jobs

2019-01-12 20:12:53 UTC  

where?

2019-01-12 20:13:04 UTC  

to another market

2019-01-12 20:13:49 UTC  

but what if that other market also wants to seek higher profit margins and does the same thing

2019-01-12 20:14:01 UTC  

Reallocation and shortages

2019-01-12 20:14:08 UTC  

it's like price controls

2019-01-12 20:14:30 UTC  

Set a max price below the market level, you get shortages

2019-01-12 20:14:32 UTC  

same works with wages

2019-01-12 20:15:30 UTC  

hm but those shortages can't last indefinitely, people need money, so they will eventually settle for the low paying job because thats all they have

2019-01-12 20:15:51 UTC  

thats what happened in China over a decade ago

2019-01-12 20:15:54 UTC  

No the market will have to readjust

2019-01-12 20:15:56 UTC  

people work for cents per day

2019-01-12 20:15:58 UTC  

China was never capitalist

2019-01-12 20:16:01 UTC  

and still isn't

2019-01-12 20:16:06 UTC  

it's an unfree market today

2019-01-12 20:16:32 UTC  

okay what about all the other countries that have cheap labor

2019-01-12 20:16:34 UTC  

cambodia

2019-01-12 20:16:47 UTC  

Still

2019-01-12 20:16:48 UTC  

unfree

2019-01-12 20:16:48 UTC  

free market, but low wages

2019-01-12 20:16:53 UTC  

not even close

2019-01-12 20:17:30 UTC  

Search for cambodia

2019-01-12 20:17:37 UTC  

People can’t survive right now with 8 an hour

2019-01-12 20:18:01 UTC  

Families need to have more than 3 jobs to survive now it’s sad

2019-01-12 20:18:19 UTC  

They would if dumbass Keyneisans let deflation happen

2019-01-12 20:18:22 UTC  

but of course not

2019-01-12 20:20:41 UTC  

oh in their data hong kong is #1

2019-01-12 20:20:45 UTC  

yea

2019-01-12 20:20:55 UTC  

but plenty of cheap products come from there that are made with low wages

2019-01-12 20:21:10 UTC  

Hong Kong has one of the highest incomes in the world

2019-01-12 20:21:16 UTC  

not to mention there is a min wage

2019-01-12 20:21:24 UTC  

It doesn't come from there anyways, it comes from China

2019-01-12 20:21:43 UTC  

It's why Hong Kong had such a rapid expansion

2019-01-12 20:21:49 UTC  

yes the min wage is 32.5 HKD

2019-01-12 20:21:56 UTC  

which is roughly 4 USD

2019-01-12 20:22:00 UTC  

What is that in USD?