Message from @hcaez

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2019-01-13 04:46:38 UTC  

And let’s be honest, when trump does Kanye, Trump Jr. or another republican will take over and that’s one of the only things I’m against in the constitution

2019-01-13 12:08:42 UTC  

@ParadiseRacer24 FDR was terrible

2019-01-13 12:08:50 UTC  

that guy was a economic catastrophy

2019-01-13 12:08:57 UTC  

And the Japanese internment

2019-01-13 15:09:49 UTC  

Terrible? How. The new deal brought us out of the Great Depression, served as an amazing general for World War Two and the people loved him so much he got elected 4 times

2019-01-13 15:12:03 UTC  

@ParadiseRacer24 no he didn’t

2019-01-13 15:12:07 UTC  

He extended the depression

2019-01-13 15:12:20 UTC  

His very policies extended and delayed the recovery to after WW2

2019-01-13 15:13:05 UTC  

The new deal was a disaster that extended the Great Depression , like always government intervention delays recovery. Just like what happened in 2008

2019-01-13 15:16:23 UTC  

I’m not saying the new deal is the best thing ever, but it gave people jobs, it’s better than what Hoover did

2019-01-13 16:34:48 UTC  

Hoover did the exact same thing but FDR did it 10x worse

2019-01-13 16:34:53 UTC  

It gave people jobs , barely

2019-01-13 16:35:00 UTC  

Real unemployment and the unemployment itself was much higher

2019-01-13 16:35:05 UTC  

It also prolongated the recession

2019-01-13 16:58:46 UTC  

Yet GDP growth was the fastest in YS history for most of his presidency

2019-01-13 16:59:00 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/418667927169138688/534053765918228481/image0.png

2019-01-13 17:27:12 UTC  

Interventions in the wartime economy, war materiel was valued incorrectly and therefore the GDP data overstate economic conditions. Moreover, conscription and arms production gave a misleading employment picture. Instead, the war was a period of capital consumption rather than capital accumulation. Tanks, bombs, and helicopters have limited uses outside of military applications. The labor that was used to produce them was not available to produce consumer goods and services; in fact, people went without consumer goods.

Soon after that however, a bust occurred with very low negative gdp growth

2019-01-13 17:29:32 UTC  

So if anything, the GDP growth is inflated and the recession did continue through WW2.

2019-01-13 17:29:39 UTC  

Being delayed over a decade

2019-01-13 17:32:03 UTC  

I don't think recovery was delayed until after WW2

2019-01-13 17:32:21 UTC  

I do

2019-01-13 17:32:30 UTC  

Even the largest Keynesian stimulus failed

2019-01-13 17:32:33 UTC  

and that says something

2019-01-13 17:33:47 UTC  

well how would you explain away the US' crazy industrial capabilities before the war

2019-01-13 17:33:53 UTC  

What do you mean?

2019-01-13 17:33:59 UTC  

goods can't be produced without money

2019-01-13 17:34:15 UTC  

doesn't mean it wasn't still in a depression

2019-01-13 17:34:36 UTC  

constructions of carriers and other naval ships, munitions, cars, tanks, planes,

2019-01-13 17:34:48 UTC  

Yes read up

2019-01-13 17:35:30 UTC  

consumerism was always popular after the 20s even during wartime

2019-01-13 17:35:37 UTC  

Cheap credit

2019-01-13 17:35:40 UTC  

and we saw how that turned out

2019-01-13 17:35:52 UTC  

Economic growth is the raising of standards of living

2019-01-13 17:36:03 UTC  

Wartime demand finally elevated production to levels sufficient to sustain the boom after WWII

2019-01-13 17:36:11 UTC  

And it went to a bust

2019-01-13 17:36:16 UTC  

but remember, the boom was inflated

2019-01-13 17:36:38 UTC  

The “bust” after WWII was the result of the sudden withdrawal of the stimulus, which was soon corrected by the growing economy

2019-01-13 17:36:48 UTC  

And busted again

2019-01-13 17:37:10 UTC  

The "boom" was inflated as I said above

2019-01-13 17:37:19 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/418667927169138688/534063408538976275/Screen_Shot_2019-01-13_at_17.37.11.png