Message from @An Elbow
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They are literally the same thing.
You also can't identify as a Capitalist lol.
A Capitalist isn't a political identity, it's a social and economic relation and status.
This test is political ignorance put on a fucking website and sold off.
It was very obviously a quick google survey drawn up by the person who posted it, not a deep political analysis.
A quick survey drawn up can at least have *some* basic sense with it.
I'm fairly certain most people here are comfortably under 18 so I wouldn't expect too much
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSds-17R9ZC6A29FEG-UoArv9S0RCfSxt1b2x0T7gkAbkPQHJQ/viewform?usp=sf_link
I just made this poll in a few minutes with far better sense than whatever that was. It's still low-level and amateur but at least it isn't *that* mess.
Congrats
Pro-Choice? Disgusting
Don't even understand the concept. And if you are pro-choice then by the lack of value you put on life you are obligated to opt for the death penalty. Otherwise you are inconsistent.
that's a jump in logic tbh please explain that step by step
Uhm?
No
It is following the same logic
Except nearly all pro-choice advocates believe that a fetus isnt a human life so it isnt inconsistent with their worldview.
no i'm being honest
if you're pro choice then you must support the death penalty doesn't immediately sound like a logical follow-through.
If you don't care enough about life to be ok with abortion you should want the death penalty
there are other reasons to not support the death penalty for example if you give it to a suicide bomber then it doesn't make logical sense because they would've wanted to die anyways, giving the suicide bomber life in prison in this case is actually more of a punishment as they are humiliated by their failure to carry out their martyrdom.
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death penalty can actually be less cruel then life in prison depending on context.
That is the point! punishment for crimes are NOT meant to be cruel. They are penalties for the criminal and a reason not to do it for those considering crime!
Making punishments cruel is sadistic and unecessary
...im pretty sure thats illegal too
and it has been banned
cruel and unusual punishments
EXACTLY
actually this i formally referred to as retributive justice.
The aim is to make the criminal feel as much pain as they caused to the victims. say the suicide bomber kills people but doesn't die themselves.
if a suicide bomber goes for it im pretty sure even if he doesnt die from the blast he'll lose a ton of his limbs
but i get your point
so would it be more painful to give them a relatively painless lethal injection or for them to have to contemplate their action?
"The aim is to make the criminal feel as much pain as they caused to the victims" Actually, that is not the point of justice. That is the aim behind revenge. Justice is FAIR punishment fro crimes committed. And protecting society from further harm from the criminal.
@🌼Kalina🌹🌸🌹Zay🌹🌸🌹Scott🌼 Pain is not the point
fair punishment is subjective retributive justice is just one example
isnt that what people did back when cruel and unusual punishments were normal
make them feel as much pain as they have caused
yup