And then Stalin started going crazy and yadda yadda Tear Down This Wall

And the allies could take down the Germans

Kys

Wtf

Lol that's the best you got myst?

Not even a good argument

F a g g o t

considering the Germans could have won regardless if they went to Moscow instead of...where di they go to again?

Like, 500 miles south?

Or east? Where was it? What was that HUGE blunder that Hitler himself made?

Stalingrad wasn't it?

Lmao what a joke

How was Moscow the war ending goal?

Stalingrad was vital to securing the oil in Baku

Oil which the German military desperately needed

You take Moscow and then besiege the rest of the towns while you worry about the rest of Europe. To kill the snake you cut off the head. The Russian government wasn't strong enough to stay together after losing their capital.

Could have had Moscow then waltz right in for the oil.

If you're a soldier and your capital is taken...you're no longer a soldier. you're like a resistance fighter.

Ala the French resistance fighters

That's video game logic

No it's really not

It really is

Where do you think video games got it from?

A need for simplified, clear rules?

Okay.........and?

History

Bingo

That's what happens. You get rid of the centralized leadership and then it's just a clean up job.

The Eastern Front was an intensely patriotic struggle, very few if even a single Russian soldier would say "oh, well they got Moscow. I cant fight anymore"

Because without central authority there's no coordination, there's no logistics, there's no anything. It's just now various local factions all with their own shit going on

You know not every General and Party member was in Moscow, right? And the ones who were could always use their legs and leave

Patriotism is fungible. They can be patriotic af, but they still have families.

They can change their patriotism to their local town

That's correct but has nothing to do with the reality of the clash of nations that was WW2

Okay so Stalin gets taken out or he's forced to flee

Now who's in chage?

charge*

Probably Shukov

Zhukov*

The answer is whoever says they're in charge. And if multiple people say it....guess what. You're gonna split like an axe to wood

Zhukov can be in charge until another general says "I'd do a much better job, and my men are all loyal to me...not Zhukov. I'm now in charge of Eastern Russia."