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2018-08-15 19:38:31 UTC  

And the liberal media wouldn't be urging him to run had Trump not been elected

2018-08-15 19:38:34 UTC  

correct?

2018-08-15 19:38:46 UTC  

Nor would they give a shit about who he is

2018-08-15 19:39:14 UTC  

Yeah, but that's not because Trump was a celebrity. It's because he was crude and opposed to the liberal media.

2018-08-15 19:39:23 UTC  

So no, the precedent wasn't really set.

2018-08-15 19:39:44 UTC  

Avenatti isn't thinking "if he's a celebrity and I'm a celebrity that means I can run", he's a part of the reaction.

2018-08-15 19:40:07 UTC  

Obviously Trump couldn't have run as an establishment politician because being anti-establishment was his message but if he hypothetically was it would be the exact same thing playing out.

2018-08-15 19:40:15 UTC  

He's a celebrity and part of that sentiment other than his distate for the so called "elites" is part of what propelled him to the white house

2018-08-15 19:40:23 UTC  

Read above.

2018-08-15 19:40:34 UTC  

Im referring to Trump

2018-08-15 19:40:41 UTC  

Yes, read above.

2018-08-15 19:40:46 UTC  

Trump being a celebrity is a nonfactor.

2018-08-15 19:41:05 UTC  

It contributed to his anti-establishment message but that's not why Avenatti thinks he can run.

2018-08-15 19:41:18 UTC  

Avenatti thinks he can run because the liberal media are pushing him to.

2018-08-15 19:41:45 UTC  

It kinda is, Avenatti isn't running because he has a celebrity status, he's running to just give the finger to Trump because of the total amount of animosity Trump gets for his outrageous actions and statements from the White House

2018-08-15 19:42:27 UTC  

Correct, but that's not the same thing at all as saying Avenatti is running because he thinks celebrities can now become president because Trump, the most recent president, is a celebrity. Those are two different lines of reasoning. 🤦

2018-08-15 19:42:30 UTC  

The push from the left urging him to run is a cause yes

2018-08-15 19:43:25 UTC  

Sure, man. Tell that to other celebrities and silicon valley leaders considering a presidential run because of what Trump was able to pull off in 2016

2018-08-15 19:44:15 UTC  

But.. wasn't Trump, a celebrity, repeatedly boasting that he would run for president several election cycles before he did?

2018-08-15 19:44:30 UTC  

Celebrities saying they're going to run for president is not a new thing, not at all.

2018-08-15 19:44:37 UTC  

Rarely does it materialize.

2018-08-15 19:44:41 UTC  

It materialized with Reagan and Trump.

2018-08-15 19:44:48 UTC  

But claims to that effect are not rare.

2018-08-15 19:45:02 UTC  

Yeah, its not, but Trump's election is simply bolstering that sentiment that celebrities can be President

2018-08-15 19:45:18 UTC  

And saying Avenatti is a celebrity in the same vein as Trump is incorrect because Avenatti is only a celebrity by virtue of being a part of the reaction against Trump.

2018-08-15 19:45:30 UTC  

I never said he was a full blown celebrity

2018-08-15 19:45:42 UTC  

But that was the crux of your argument, that celebrities can now run left and right.

2018-08-15 19:45:44 UTC  

I said he had a celebrity status or reputation among Hollywood and the entertainment industry

2018-08-15 19:46:05 UTC  

Yeah, he's at the forefront of the news so I guess that's being a "celebrity" but that's not even comparable.

2018-08-15 19:46:11 UTC  

They awarded him that status for opposing Trump

2018-08-15 19:46:51 UTC  

You haven't told me anything convincing or that holds water. You're entitled to your opinion, I have stuff to do. Sorry dude.

2018-08-15 19:48:07 UTC  

Pretty much that Trump's election has opened a political pandora's box to other unconventional runs that America deserves for electing this reality show into the oval office in 2016

2018-08-15 19:48:22 UTC  

America reaps what it sows

2018-08-15 19:52:27 UTC  

If Avenatti, Zuckerberg, Mark Cuban, and other entrepreneurs and or celebrities run for the Democratic primary in 2020, It's because its a direct reaction to Trump, mark my words

2018-08-15 21:19:59 UTC  

Somehow, Chris's brother, Andrew, always makes Chris seem smarter against all odds, and that's saying a lot given what he said about a false moral equivalence between Nazis and Antifa on his worthless show on CNN a few days ago. From Andrew saying he'll literally sue the Supreme Court if they overturn Roe V Wade (which was a garbage ruling just off of the legal merits alone, not on the moral side of the issue) to saying America was never great, he truly is the dumbest Cuomo huh.

2018-08-15 22:23:44 UTC  

wow this is so epic!!!

2018-08-15 22:26:36 UTC  

Hm?

2018-08-15 23:43:33 UTC  

lol

2018-08-15 23:43:36 UTC  

this server is a meme

2018-08-16 00:52:53 UTC  

Nah we're legit

2018-08-16 00:53:03 UTC  

The dems are a meme tho