Message from @Deleted User
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I already told you my philosophy is of my own inspired thought
Not of Spengler
Spengler forms a view of history
Which happens to be correct
You’re definition of materialist is useless
And can be aligned to reality as well as my view of materialism within it
Why?
Because some materialism isn’t good nor bad. It just is.
Never assigned materialism as good or bad
There’s no point classifying it because of that.
Nor immaterialism as either
Right. Because it isn’t.
Therefor there’s no need to classify it
Good and bad are based on cultural perception
Materialism exists outside of our perception
Yes but if it doesn’t make a difference because it’s not assigned to either good or bad than it’s pointless to classify it.
That’s the issue.
No because it still exists and is something worth examining the effects of even though it cannot be classified within our limited perception.
It doesn’t mean anything in your context.
if it’s not good or bad then it cannot matter.
Something can exist outside our normal understanding of society but we can perceive it and examine how it affects what just is
Stop trying to classify it.
>Materializing immaterial in thought
I'm not materializing anything in thought
I'm recognizing it's existence and the absence of it
If we do not perceive it as good or bad/it does not exist as good or bad then there’s no reason to classify it. Let alone use it for the basis of anything.
It just is.
I'm confused by what you mean
So, if I understand something can exist as neither beneficial or not, it just is, so we shouldn't classify or observe it's affects
Except arguably materialism does have an effect
If materialism isn’t inherently good or bad in your definition then it’s pretty useless to use to rely on it as something of value. It’s light pointing at a human and saying “you’re a human” you’re not adding anything.
As it appears along with the degeneration of immaterialism
Which is the birthed state of society
Materialism isn't inherently bad as it cannot be altered
So there's no purpose classifying something that just is as bad or good
It simply exists
If materialism isn’t bad then why you go around calling people materialists as an insult?
However we can see how it exists more and more as society ages
Because it is an insult in so far as they are ignorant to reality outside themselves just as most people are
But it isn't necessarily bad