Message from @Kurt

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2018-09-03 00:53:28 UTC  

So just a slightly more Jewish translation?

2018-09-03 00:53:48 UTC  

The dude was fucking 25%+ Jewish

2018-09-03 00:54:01 UTC  

You’re literally having a Jew tell you about materialism

2018-09-03 00:54:04 UTC  

That's not correct

2018-09-03 00:54:05 UTC  

Also

2018-09-03 00:54:13 UTC  

My views of materialism are based on my own perception

2018-09-03 00:54:22 UTC  

Then they’re irrelevant

2018-09-03 00:54:24 UTC  

I already told you my philosophy is of my own inspired thought

2018-09-03 00:54:30 UTC  

Not of Spengler

2018-09-03 00:54:37 UTC  

Spengler forms a view of history

2018-09-03 00:54:40 UTC  

Which happens to be correct

2018-09-03 00:54:44 UTC  

You’re definition of materialist is useless

2018-09-03 00:55:04 UTC  

And can be aligned to reality as well as my view of materialism within it

2018-09-03 00:55:08 UTC  

Why?

2018-09-03 00:55:26 UTC  

Because some materialism isn’t good nor bad. It just is.

2018-09-03 00:55:38 UTC  

Never assigned materialism as good or bad

2018-09-03 00:55:38 UTC  

There’s no point classifying it because of that.

2018-09-03 00:55:43 UTC  

Nor immaterialism as either

2018-09-03 00:55:46 UTC  

Right. Because it isn’t.

2018-09-03 00:55:53 UTC  

Therefor there’s no need to classify it

2018-09-03 00:55:56 UTC  

Good and bad are based on cultural perception

2018-09-03 00:56:02 UTC  

Materialism exists outside of our perception

2018-09-03 00:56:26 UTC  

Yes but if it doesn’t make a difference because it’s not assigned to either good or bad than it’s pointless to classify it.

2018-09-03 00:56:44 UTC  

That’s the issue.

2018-09-03 00:56:51 UTC  

No because it still exists and is something worth examining the effects of even though it cannot be classified within our limited perception.

2018-09-03 00:56:54 UTC  

It doesn’t mean anything in your context.

2018-09-03 00:57:24 UTC  

if it’s not good or bad then it cannot matter.

2018-09-03 00:57:33 UTC  

It just Is.

2018-09-03 00:57:38 UTC  

Something can exist outside our normal understanding of society but we can perceive it and examine how it affects what just is

2018-09-03 00:57:39 UTC  

Stop trying to classify it.

2018-09-03 00:57:56 UTC  

>Materializing immaterial in thought

2018-09-03 00:58:09 UTC  

I'm not materializing anything in thought

2018-09-03 00:58:19 UTC  

I'm recognizing it's existence and the absence of it

2018-09-03 00:58:44 UTC  

If we do not perceive it as good or bad/it does not exist as good or bad then there’s no reason to classify it. Let alone use it for the basis of anything.

2018-09-03 00:59:12 UTC  

It just is.

2018-09-03 00:59:17 UTC  

I'm confused by what you mean

2018-09-03 00:59:49 UTC  

So, if I understand something can exist as neither beneficial or not, it just is, so we shouldn't classify or observe it's affects

2018-09-03 01:00:11 UTC  

Except arguably materialism does have an effect

2018-09-03 01:00:16 UTC  

If materialism isn’t inherently good or bad in your definition then it’s pretty useless to use to rely on it as something of value. It’s light pointing at a human and saying “you’re a human” you’re not adding anything.

2018-09-03 01:00:23 UTC  

As it appears along with the degeneration of immaterialism

2018-09-03 01:00:29 UTC  

Which is the birthed state of society