Message from @Trapper

Discord ID: 503595366415859760


2018-10-19 21:09:47 UTC  

There's a big wealth disparity but there's still a middle class

2018-10-19 21:10:55 UTC  

I'm Austrian in terms of my economic school

2018-10-19 21:11:01 UTC  

Not my nationality

2018-10-19 21:58:06 UTC  

He's not wrong

2018-10-19 21:58:12 UTC  

The key word being *saudi*

2018-10-19 21:58:29 UTC  

The majority of the population is poor, but they aren't of Saudi blood.

2018-10-20 02:52:34 UTC  

I want to give my server away.It's all set up with self roles over a hundred members and bots,all ready to go.Just DM me.

2018-10-20 08:12:21 UTC  

hi

2018-10-20 21:47:34 UTC  

I'm black

2018-10-20 21:58:33 UTC  

cool

2018-10-20 23:14:41 UTC  

Ikr

2018-10-21 01:47:19 UTC  

Heya. Polish-patriot-admirer-of-trump here. Just want to say hello

2018-10-21 01:55:51 UTC  

https://oppressive.games/power/ join the agrarian party

2018-10-21 02:46:59 UTC  
2018-10-21 02:47:46 UTC  

my boi Ori

2018-10-21 02:53:21 UTC  

lul

2018-10-21 15:21:29 UTC  

Here is a new announcement:
Discord has changed their Terms of Service!

Unfortunately, this change comes with a revocation of your legal rights. Discord has revoked your right to sue (you must go through an arbitrator) and to congregate as a class action lawsuit.

Luckily, there is an opt-out for the clause, in which you must email [email protected], but you must do it within 30 days or you can no longer opt-out.

YOU CANNOT DELETE OR DEACTIVATE YOUR ACCOUNT TO OPT-OUT OF THE ARBITRATION CLAUSE

You can see the added clauses for yourself here: https://gist.github.com/Rapptz/c93697c9d59ec2f0d8071b7d0e907632

I will attempt to answer some common questions.

Is this enforceable?

In the United States, yes. This was decided by the Supreme Court in 2011. See https://gc.gy/7538114

In Europe, no. There are many clauses, a relevant one is Article 77 of the GDPR ("Right to lodge a complaint with a supervisory authority").
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discord_arbitration_tos.md
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7538114
Why does this matter?

2018-10-21 15:21:31 UTC  

Without the ability to congregate for a class action lawsuit, if Discord ever leaks your data or does something catastrophically bad to a large portion of the population you have no way to representatively sue together without each of you individually suing via the arbitrator.

Please see the following article: https://gc.gy/7538130

Essentially:

1. Your right to file a complaint in the court of law is removed.
2. The arbitration system tends to heavily favour the company rather than the consumer.
3. Since your right to pool similar complaints together is taken away, the amount of damage you can do to a company that has wronged you significantly is limited to those who are willing to arbitrate.

Why should I care? Other companies do it too!

By learning about this I hope that you will be more conscious about these arbitration clauses and how anti-consumer they are. You can't change the past, but you surely can't predict the future either.
Consumerist
Why You Should Opt Out Of Forced Arbitration, In 3 Sentences
While more and more companies are adding "forced arbitration" clauses to their terms of service, only a handful of these businesses are offering customers the choice to opt out of…
Sorry for the long post. But this is about the Discord TOS. They revoked some basic legal rights, TL;DR

2018-10-21 15:47:19 UTC  

Fuck these companies. "If we don't like what you say we can terminate your account or dox you"

2018-10-21 15:48:11 UTC  

"What are you going to do? Use another service? 😂 😂 😂 "

2018-10-21 15:48:28 UTC  

@Trapper that's why corporations should be abolished

2018-10-21 15:48:42 UTC  

The state should provide everything

2018-10-21 15:51:06 UTC  

I think that could lead to corruption of some websites. If the government is democrat controlled they could steer media and social media services to censor right wing opinions and vice versa

2018-10-21 15:54:12 UTC  

I don't think they would even do that, it would been alienating the other 50% of the country and providing a solid cause for civil war

2018-10-21 15:54:28 UTC  

As well as paving the way for their own collapse

2018-10-21 17:06:46 UTC  

@Trapper You can literally look at other communist countries, they've already done that lmao

2018-10-21 17:07:37 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/402338028523094018/503615354384154636/types-of-government.jpg

2018-10-21 22:40:10 UTC  

@Donaldus Triumphus Liz of the fauxhicans shall lead us to victory

2018-10-21 23:27:40 UTC  

@Trapper abolish corporations and free up the market

2018-10-21 23:28:13 UTC  

In an anarcho-capitalist city/country things like Twitter would collapse in seconds lmfao

2018-10-22 00:40:58 UTC  

@Donaldus Triumphus i dont think intenet existed in the age of communism but true nonetheless

2018-10-22 00:55:24 UTC  

Yes, Internet did

2018-10-22 00:56:00 UTC  

1983

2018-10-22 00:56:10 UTC  

Communism collapsed in 1989

2018-10-22 00:58:31 UTC  

Well, It was invented in 1983, but hadn't started up until the 90s

2018-10-22 00:59:38 UTC  

Is there some different political role i can be as?

2018-10-22 01:00:17 UTC  

I'm a republican for gods sakes

2018-10-22 01:00:53 UTC  

You're a Republican you say?

2018-10-22 01:01:02 UTC  

Yes

2018-10-22 01:01:30 UTC  

Read <#418665835037458432> , there is a rightwing ladder for Republicans