Message from @HaplessOperator

Discord ID: 513325245952688128


2018-11-17 12:06:46 UTC  

In my case it would be way more likely that your attacker doesn't have a gun.

2018-11-17 12:07:01 UTC  

Tasers are barely suitable even against unarmed attackers in light clothing.

2018-11-17 12:07:11 UTC  

And only then at very, very close range.

2018-11-17 12:07:25 UTC  

Like I said, doesn't have to be just a taser

2018-11-17 12:07:39 UTC  

Pepper spray is reliant on pain compliance, and straight up does not affect a surprising percentage of the population on a physiological level.

2018-11-17 12:07:42 UTC  

Same as tear gas.

2018-11-17 12:08:06 UTC  

And if you've got someone in an altered state, they can function whether you've dosed them or not.

2018-11-17 12:08:22 UTC  

Hand me a baseball bat, I'll fuck a bitch up, and though this is on the assumption that the attacker has no gun

2018-11-17 12:08:23 UTC  

Pepper spray also usually results in contamination of the person using it as well.

2018-11-17 12:08:40 UTC  

You don't carry a baseball bat with you everywhere, though.

2018-11-17 12:08:54 UTC  

Trunk of my car

2018-11-17 12:09:01 UTC  

You're always in your car?

2018-11-17 12:09:04 UTC  

But then again, this is the only possible use

2018-11-17 12:09:08 UTC  

You never walk to or from your car?

2018-11-17 12:09:23 UTC  

And you can teleport the bat into your hands?

2018-11-17 12:09:29 UTC  

No, I understand that I'm not always near it

2018-11-17 12:09:31 UTC  

Does this hold up to all the gun deaths?

2018-11-17 12:10:14 UTC  

Public education on self defense would be help too

2018-11-17 12:10:31 UTC  

Absolutely. The casualty rate is of literally no concern to me. More people die every year from falling off of ladders. Three times as many people are beaten to death with hammers. Several times more die of the flu in a single season.

2018-11-17 12:10:32 UTC  

Even then, If I'm honest I would prefer a person getting robbed to a person getting killed.

2018-11-17 12:11:15 UTC  

To be honest, if someone pulled a knife on me or my fiancee, and demanded my wallet, I'd blow them the fuck away if I didn't have a single dollar in it.

2018-11-17 12:11:15 UTC  

Those two can go hand in hand sadly

2018-11-17 12:11:19 UTC  

The point isn't being robbed.

2018-11-17 12:11:34 UTC  

It's defending your life and agency against a hostile threat.

2018-11-17 12:11:47 UTC  

Ladders and hammers are usefull, the flu is natural.

2018-11-17 12:12:03 UTC  

But in your scenario I would prefer having more people robbed to the exchange of less people killed.

2018-11-17 12:12:38 UTC  

Robberies rarely go like that, though6

2018-11-17 12:12:54 UTC  

In what way?

2018-11-17 12:12:56 UTC  

Once a victim demonstrates compliance with a predator, it usually goes a step further.

2018-11-17 12:13:05 UTC  

What do you mean by step further?

2018-11-17 12:13:38 UTC  

DoJ statistics show that in all cases except immediate, violent resistance, the victim is likely to be subject to escalation by the hostile actor.

2018-11-17 12:13:45 UTC  

Describe it.

2018-11-17 12:14:01 UTC  

What sort of escalation

2018-11-17 12:14:07 UTC  

And could you send me the statistics

2018-11-17 12:14:26 UTC  

A death I'm assuming?

2018-11-17 12:14:51 UTC  

A man comes up to a woman, asks her if her dog bites. She says no. He pulls a knife. Demands her purse. She complies. That's twice now.

2018-11-17 12:15:03 UTC  

The first capitulation was opening a dialogue.

2018-11-17 12:15:04 UTC  

That's only a robbery

2018-11-17 12:15:08 UTC  

I'm not finished.

2018-11-17 12:15:12 UTC  

Opening of a dialogue isn't bad

2018-11-17 12:15:25 UTC  

It can be. But that's a separate discussion.