The elite are the same everywhere

Same narrative

Same group

Don't believe me the research can be done easily

my point from the beggining is that, if the government chooses its own elite, it saves itself from traitorous elites. think China, they choose their own upper class. nobody gets rich in this world without some backing.

they say: you need good idea and work: lies! you need either your own nation or a foreign nation to take you as a lackey or their interests. problem is, US don't do this.

You're fucking out of touch Templar

Read this

GM: Why do you think class has been excluded from political discussion?

RP: If people think they are being treated fairly by the government, they won’t oppose what it does. For many years, schools, mass media, and government agencies have convinced lower income people that they are in the “middle class,” by publicizing the median personal or household income, which they often callaverage income, rather than the actual average income. At present, the median household income in the U.S. is about $54,000, and the average household income is about $140,000. I’ve spoken to many educated people, including newspaper writers, over the last several decades who were unaware of the real numbers. In a graduate seminar in 1960, the professor interrupted me to say “there are no classes in the United States.” I had heard that in high school, but I was shocked to hear it bluntly stated by a professor, and it sensitized me to the extent of the craziness that constitutes our public culture.

Richard Cummings has written about some of the ways that the public consciousness has been deliberately muddled. From the end of the 18th century (Rousseau, Blake, Jefferson) to the end of the second world war, the idea of social-economic class powerfully guided political activity. Since then, the meaning of “left” and “right” has been detached from class. “Identity politics” has been a powerful way to distract people from their economic interests. As soon as M.L. King made the issue class, rather than race, he was killed. Many prominent “leftists” have been agents of the FBI or CIA, in the promotion of that cultural confusion.

jesus

Class is the root of political discourse

begone you filthy communist

Yes

your rich countrymen are not evil

at least not necessarily

I tolerated you before but you don't understand basic economics

For many years, schools, mass media, and government agencies have convinced lower income people that they are in the “middle class,” by publicizing the median personal or household income, which they often call average income, rather than the actual average income. At present, the median household income in the U.S. is about $54,000, and the average household income is about $140,000. I’ve spoken to many educated people, including newspaper writers, over the last several decades who were unaware of the real numbers.

they are your countrymen and you should be happy for each other's successes

@Nikitis you have a point. but I think you miss the point: upper class is needed.

The rich are good

the problem is we have an evil upper class

Especially when they agree with you

and its our fault, because we believe in Free-market and equal oportunity, etc

and the other point: tax money is used half as efficiently *at best* as private money is

^

just focus on having a population of decent people, and those who become rich will be likely to spend generously on the public good

Money is tangible good in the end.

I'd they aren't taxed up the ass they will

It doesn't flow.

The fact of the matter is that when the rich invest in companies, that helps everyone because more jobs are created and wages go up to attract better workers.

It doesn't move around.

what the fuck are you fucking retarded

It sits still in bank accounts.

Omg

jesus you are retarded

Greed and lust for money benefits the masses under a capitalist system.

MONEY IS NEVER SITTING IN A BANK ACCOUNT

Greed is good

This man has never done business before

Money is constantly flowing in and out

Money is a bank or in a hedge fund is invested in new and established corporations