Message from @Deleted User

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2018-12-24 00:13:11 UTC  

of course nopt

2018-12-24 00:13:21 UTC  

Monarchies will lead to Authoritarianism

2018-12-24 00:13:26 UTC  

The US was made by enlightenment-thinking freemasons

2018-12-24 00:13:27 UTC  

but the constitution isnt all that is to blame

2018-12-24 00:13:42 UTC  

and early enlightment thinking did some things right

2018-12-24 00:13:43 UTC  

Yeah it's more so the spirit of the Age of Enlightenment

2018-12-24 00:13:46 UTC  

You can't have monarchies without ruling with an Iron fist

2018-12-24 00:13:46 UTC  

Not true

2018-12-24 00:13:52 UTC  

The whole Enlightenment was flawed

2018-12-24 00:13:55 UTC  

thenwe disagree there

2018-12-24 00:14:00 UTC  

oh well

2018-12-24 00:14:05 UTC  

Where did it do good though?

2018-12-24 00:14:17 UTC  

I'm curious on your reasoning

2018-12-24 00:14:29 UTC  

I think a society that guarantees some rights of men is a good thing

2018-12-24 00:14:42 UTC  

The modern legal system is a good invention

2018-12-24 00:14:48 UTC  

not perfect but good

2018-12-24 00:15:10 UTC  

The modern legal system had roots in Roman law and the Inquisition courts, not the Enlightenment

2018-12-24 00:15:21 UTC  

freedom is a good thing in the hands of a decent people

2018-12-24 00:15:33 UTC  

it has its roots in british common law

2018-12-24 00:15:39 UTC  

Excessive freedom isn't necessarily good

2018-12-24 00:15:44 UTC  

of course not

2018-12-24 00:15:52 UTC  

freedom is nothing without brotherhood

2018-12-24 00:15:54 UTC  

You shouldn't have the freedom to spread liberal ideas

2018-12-24 00:16:37 UTC  

I don't think theres a point in supporting traditionalism, it would take a lot for those ideas to be re-implemented.

2018-12-24 00:16:50 UTC  

What I would argue for is a hands-off approach to governing expression, with the capacity to crack down on destructive movements

2018-12-24 00:17:08 UTC  

I dislike the concept of inquisition and surveilance

2018-12-24 00:17:28 UTC  

I would not look for windows into men's souls, you might say

2018-12-24 00:17:28 UTC  

Well the capacity to crack down requires an authoritarian government

2018-12-24 00:17:32 UTC  

yes

2018-12-24 00:17:54 UTC  

And of course, I'm not calling for a orwellian state. More so a monarchy with the reserved authoritarian force when necessary.

2018-12-24 00:18:07 UTC  

an authoritarian government that does not involve itself where it doesn't have to is ideal

2018-12-24 00:18:15 UTC  

also military service should be mandatory

2018-12-24 00:18:20 UTC  

for men

2018-12-24 00:18:22 UTC  

The Calvinist Republic of early America had no power to crack down on harmful things, and it never did as it evolved.

2018-12-24 00:18:33 UTC  

America is not ideal

2018-12-24 00:19:00 UTC  

I do still respect it as an effort that was good in many ways

2018-12-24 00:19:07 UTC  

Well yeah that's how most pre-reformation monarchies worked anywayz

2018-12-24 00:19:10 UTC  

*anyways

2018-12-24 00:19:16 UTC  

They didn't monitor everything

2018-12-24 00:19:23 UTC  

yeah but they had no fair courts

2018-12-24 00:19:29 UTC  

no enabling law for business