It doesn’t concern production/trade

But rather destruction/seizure

Even if its destroying destruction

Its still not producing anything

where does the gov mostly get their money from

Taxation

and is taxation forced upon people

It is if you want the services the government provides

Yes but that doesn't matter it is still theft. If it uses force and says, you gett this and this and this and you must pay it even if you do not need it, it is theft. For example, they waste their tax money on useless shit like planned parenthood etc

or healthcare

obamacare a prime example

a reason trump won in the first place is that people were sick of it and were betrayed

also

my point is that what you said that force does not produce anything is false

Well thats a different story

You can have minarchism (minimalism? I forget the exact name.)

minarchism is a joke

they say the same shit we say

they say taxation is theft, that gov is dangerous etc

I know

but then still want the gov to tax people

Well they believe the government should provide military defense

That seems to be a major difference

sure

but then comes the question of the monopoly on force

they say that it is true

however they somehow support it??

idk their party is a joke just like anarcho

what was its name

i forgot

anarcho ill something

Lol

Insurrectionary anarchist

Honestly I’m just here to listen to different ideas, I’m not really that great at debating and I haven’t done much research so don’t take my ideas as the best that can be offered.

The point of debating is not to win or point take the point of debating is to dig for truth and to defend ytour truth

Ofc

I get that

"instead insurrectionary anarchist advocate informal organization and put value in attack, permanent class conflict and a refusal..."

What are you?

Oh

I’m centre left lol