Have you seen the current border?

Our country not be in a hellhole crisis, but it's very shit and bad enough to demand for action

If our security is garbage, why has the rate of illegals coming in decreased?

Anyway, my point is that they aren't really flip-flopping

I think you saying it is decreasing is misleading, yes it has decreased but not enough to consider it not a problem

I want more amounts, significant decrease drops

They are flip flopping, Democrats use to be pro border control

They were in favor of a wall, what the hell happened?

Many democrats still are, but they think a wall is too much

Well a barrier

A wall isn't too much, it just stops the illegals, he isn't going to destroy the existing legal points of entry

Don't forget a wall doesn't say "you're not allowed in". A wall says "please use the entrance"

I'm saying the viewpoint of democrats, not why we should or shouldn't build a wall

Perhaps old Democrats, although I don't believe so

I think the Democratic Party is quite split between liberals and leftists

Liberals I think are pro border security, the leftists don't give a shit

Whether I can tell which one is speaking, I have no clue. They are both apart of the same party

Not as much as you think, leftists want open borders, I don't think open borders has been taken seriously in American politics

Democratic Senators only speak to entice their voters, that must explain a flip flop in policies

The leftist agenda has progressed more over the Democratic party

At least in its recent years, that would give quite a good explanation

Leftists are also socialists, I only know very few democrats who are like this

I can most definitely see why leftists would want to use the Democratic party as a platform

Gives them more credibility, more of a say

They do that because democrats are closer to their ideology

It's similar to the far-right voting republican

Difference is leftists are taking over the Democratic party, far right isn't

"Taking over"

Show me where

I got a book if you are willing to purchase it kek

Although I look at a lot of the major left wing rallies and protests, they don't seem like the liberal intelligent people you like to claim there is plentiful of. I look at the Hillary rallies, the protests of the border, protests of Trumps inauguration, the election riots, the Women's March

Perhaps I'm not looking in the right areas, but all I see are leftists representing the DNCs voice

Liberals are also opposed to trump

The inaguration riots and election riots doesn't mean it's leftists

Also, Hillary is further right than most democrats overall

Well I've seen the signs and the interviews with the people, they don't look quite like the people who would be supporting traditional liberal values

A few select interviews doesn't mean much

Its not a select interview

You know who Owen Schroyer is?

No

He goes into the lead crowds of protests and leftist riots and challenges everyone there about what they are truly protesting about