Trump is doing this because he knows if he gets the wall done he'll win re-election, he also knew in advance that dems wouldn't want to fund the wall but he does it anyway to make the dems look bad

This wouldn't be a problem if the DNC wasn't fucking retarded

I don't see Trump flying to Afghanistan in the middle of a shutdown negotiation lol

or openly denying deals before they even come out

They should know Trump isn't going to ever back down as he's the President and knows that's the key to re-election, they should accept the deal they are given.

Meanwhile, it's just the workers going without pay.

No they shouldn't this isn't the way Trump is supposed to govern

Giving in and being a coward will make dems look weak and will just give Trump what he wanted even though the way he got it was wrong

So he should give up trying to make sure he loses 2020?

A lot of people voted for a wall, they're not going to vote him in again.

The longer the gov stays shutdown the more unpopular Trump gets, obviously as Trump supporters you guys will just hate dems more

But overall in the country people will start blaming Trump

Since Trump is the leader

But like the Donfather said, I don't see him flying to Afghanistan during an important government shutdown.

Naci Pelosi doesn't run the country

Nancy

But she is one of the key people negotiating a deal.

Trump isn't going to propose a deal over the phone.

well that's not her problem lol

It should be her problem considering many aren't getting paid.

Well it is, she's the House Speaker

She can still make deals on the phone

She won't though

If she's nt going to make deals on the phone then why should she do it in real life

You have to understand her logic though, obviously there's political reasons for why she doesn't want to make a deal but the main reason is what I said earlier

https://gyazo.com/6325dfbfe10bde066ded7782ebf65c86

Over a phone isn't exactly professional.

They know if they give in and Trump gets what he wants to after shutting down the gov

It's an important thing, not something you're just gonna talk about over a call.

Trump will shut down the gov everytime he wants something done that isn't popular enough to pass in congress

Because he won't get any progress done.

Democrats are going to oppose everything.

Yes just like how republicans opposed everything obama tried to do

Since it was obama

Its the same way now

But Obama didnt shut down the gov every time he wanted to do something and it wans't popular, it only happened once but after 2.5 weeks republicans and dems + obama worked together to end it

And guess what happened?

The republicans who worked with obama to end the shutdown ended up getting voted out

in the next election

Since republicans saw them as traitors

To get something you done, you need to shutdown because you're not going to get anything done if you're giving up on everything you proposed for.