Don't make the mistake that many do and think what I mean by suffering is just pain or something

Like when you go for a run you experience pain, but it brings you overall great joy to experience that pain

Your reptile brain is facing the wrong direction IV

A man cannot survive without the dichotomy of comfort and suffering. A child is tormented by a fear of monsters in the dark, until he has real monsters to contend with.

Being sad over the passing of a relative or pet is very sad, but going through those things helps you to learn lessons of death and grieving

So I wouldn't consider that suffering either

Comfort does not increase happiness. We are more comfortable than ever, yet suicide and depression rates rise.

Youre talking about being gay like its a life lesson

Why are you still here?

Go suck on a lollipop little boy

adhominem

Dedalus you should think on your own about the nature of suffering in life

it is valuable for any person to do

Quit thinking someone's theory or view is wrong

It's ok to think a person's view is wrong

I probably think his or her view is wrong

No view is wrong

I disagree with that

he is a moral relativist, don't bother with him

he is beyond help

You're a fucktard

see

I believe in objective morality, but one that is determined by science, basically.

Well being vs. suffering.

How can science dictate morality?

what morality does science give you?

I think in most cases its the other way around, in the cases when they do correlate

@Deleted User you stated the promotion of homosexuality is evil. Explain?

Well if you decide that well being is good and suffering is bad, then science can help you to determine what actions will lead you in the proper direction

science is the study of nature, where suffering is the normal state

does nature care that an animal dies slowly

By science I don't mean dudes in lab coats, I just mean an understanding of all facets of the universe

Nah, we decide to care first

does an animal lose hope as it is hunted, or does it fight to the end

if suffering is bad and lack of suffering is good, that means having babies is bad because childbirth hurts

Some lose hope and some fight, tbh

I don’t understand how one promotes homosexuality. Like some guy is gonna knock on your door. “Excuse me sir, but have you tried gay?”

then your morality is determined by human sentimentality not by science

There are some herd animals that purposely give up to let the others get away

that is not giving up then

it's a sacrifice