How could you possibly consider homosexuality evil tho

What could be more harmless

What's the harm

What's the harm of homosexuality tho?

You never said

Do what?

Who cares, if a guy wants to have sex with another guy, that seems totally harmless

Certainly isn't something the state should interfere with

I mean you're either gay or you're not

Can't really be talked into liking the dick if you're not gay

If you're saying convincing people that homosexuality is ok, then, well, it clearly is since we already established that it's harmless

If a molested child grows up and being gay makes them happy, that seems perfectly good.

Even if that's true, it's not like any gay person is going to stop being gay any time soon

Homosexuality exists, it's harmless, so there you go

At the very least, you should agree it's none of the state's business

I don't get how it's dangerous, still

Some studies that show correlations aren't much

No, you showed that it was correlated.

Why would you want the government suppressing any opinion?

I don't even want the government to suppress neo nazi opinions

Everybody spreads their own propaganda

Let the free market of ideas sort it all out

In my view good and evil are as simple as well being vs. suffering

Anything that reduces suffering and increases well being is good, and the opposite is evil.

It's fair for you to disagree, that's just my view.

Don't make the mistake that many do and think what I mean by suffering is just pain or something

Like when you go for a run you experience pain, but it brings you overall great joy to experience that pain

Being sad over the passing of a relative or pet is very sad, but going through those things helps you to learn lessons of death and grieving

So I wouldn't consider that suffering either

It's ok to think a person's view is wrong

I probably think his or her view is wrong

I disagree with that

I believe in objective morality, but one that is determined by science, basically.

Well being vs. suffering.

Well if you decide that well being is good and suffering is bad, then science can help you to determine what actions will lead you in the proper direction

By science I don't mean dudes in lab coats, I just mean an understanding of all facets of the universe

Nah, we decide to care first

Some lose hope and some fight, tbh

There are some herd animals that purposely give up to let the others get away

When I say my morality is based on science I"m not trying to say it's 100% provable like let me show you the formula lol

So there's no reason for you to debunk it from fear of that

Basically I decide that well being is good and suffering is bad, because to think otherwise is just... idk what you're even talking about if you disagree with it tbh

If you're like "you know what, maybe suffering is good" you're just being obtuse imo

Gay people love to have gay sex, so gay people should have gay sex

Yeah, again, don't make the mistake of thinking that by suffering i mean pain, and by well being I mean pure pleasure

Because I don't.

The life of a heroin junky is clearly not conducive to well being

What do you guys think about marijuana?