every citizen uses police at least once

Like tax on cigarettes, which saves money overall by decreasing health problems

I mean

I mean it's not really helpful

Let’s say there’s a club

cigs have inelastic demand

you just make people lose more money

and hurt them more

In the club, there’s a sign that says “Club rules: Pay club dues to stay in the club”

Taxing cigarettes barely do anything, it should be up to consumer choice to do what they want.

And you join the club but don’t pay the dues

But those are two different things, it's voluntary

Yes

the government however is not voluntary

Participating in the economy is voluntary

yes it is

I wasn't voluntary born.

you don't want to pay then leave

"Participating in the economy"

You could live in a cabin in the woods and not earn income

dude you act like the economy is a seperate entity

there is no "it"

I mean

We are the economy

You don't need to pay taxes to earn an income

Interactions between people are the economy

And it shouldn't be the case

Yes but no taxes are needed

Hold on grg

Sorry

alright cya

@Kylo Ren Why?

taxes are needed

Whys that

to pay for things the government allows you to use such as
-roads
-libraries
-schools
-police
-military

just to name a couple

All those can exist without a government

and probably better quality

privatizing those things is a terrible idea

especially roads

They exist today