Message from @Obungus
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Socialism is when most of the economy is controlled by the government
Bernie does not support this
that's his goal and aspiration
He never said that
literally wants universal healthcare, college education, and other stuff all paid for by the american taxpayer
That's still not most of the economy
He does not want the government controlling the economy
that's what those policies infer
Really?
Healthcare and College is only a tiny part of the economy
he wants more and more regulations on everything which means the government would be taking hold of the economy.
No
more regulations don't mean taking control of the economy
that is the nature of regulations
That's like saying Donald Trump wants to deport every single foreigner
Regulations do not mean taking control of the economy
but that's what happens BECAUSE of regulations
He has never said that he wants the government to control the economy
not in those words but his policies say socialism
how can you defend policies that mean that you, the american taxpayer will be paying for EVERYONE else's college and healthcare, and medicaid etc.
Heyo
i just think the facts are being overtly ignored here that's all. theres no other way to describe sander's political stance than socialist
Do you not know the difference between Social Democracy and Socialism?
Sanders is more like an average Euro-style social democrat than a socialist
Sanders supports the Nordic model
None of the Nordic countries are socialist
The Nordic countries are pretty diverse politically
literally the definition of social democracy includes the phrase "a socialist system of government" achieved by democratic means which just means the people decide to be socialist
Socialist means the economy is mostly a command economy
Like Norway vs Denmark vs Sweden
That is misleading
Here is the correct defination:
"Social democracy is a political, social and economic ideology that supports economic and social interventions to promote social justice within the framework of a liberal democratic polity and capitalist economy."
Democratic socialism is socialism that’s democratic
Sanders wants America to be more like the Nordic countries
Which are not Socialist
Social democracy is democratic socially-minded capitalism
socialism that's decided by the people. people decide to be socialist. social democracy is a gradual transition to 100% flat out socialism